Requesting Advice on Speaker Upgrade


Hello,

I am in the market for a new speaker upgrade. I am hoping to receive recommendations on brands and models to look at. I have already demoed some Kef and Totem speakers, which I really enjoy. I really have my eye on the Totem Rainmakers. Not sure if they will be a good fit for my room or amp though.

I’d also like something that will be flexible with integrated amp upgrade possibilities down the road.

I’d say it’s a small to medium room size at approximately 15’ x 20’. There is a large picture window to the left of the listening position that has curtains covering it. To the right of the listening position is a half wall that goes into an open kitchen. Behind the seat is a floor to ceiling stone hearth and fireplace wall.

My budget tops at $600-$900, but $1100 will be the absolute max. Looking for bookshelf monitors and I’d like to be able to include stands within that budget.

I enjoy a balanced sound profile. I don’t necessarily crave super clarity or very bright sounding speakers, but enjoy a neutral sound. Sharp, clear bass is great, but I’m not super into hard, thumping bass. I’m still new to audio so pardon if these descriptors aren’t exactly clear.

My current setup is a Rotel RA-12, Project Debut Carbon w/ Ortogon 2M Blue cartridge, and a DTS Play-Fi streamer (for Tidal Hifi and Spotify streaming). Current speakers are stand mounted Polk RTi-A1s.

I have a toddler that wanders around this space. So grille covers are a must. I am also welcome to floorstanding recommendations, but thinking stand mounted ones will be ideal since it’s less he can mess with on the floor.

Sorry for the super wordy post... But one last note: We have a lot of mid-century modern furniture in our home. So looking for options with a clean, simple design and aesthetics.


Thanks, and cheers!
Matthew


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@soix 

The Silverline Minuet Supreme Plus look gorgeous!  Appreciate your suggestion.
@returntomusic 
Have you listened to the ELAC UB-5? Nice balanced sound with excellent imaging, detail, and bass for the size/price. Throw in Dayton Audio 24" metal stands for a little over $60 shipped, (Parts Express). Use some black Goriila tape to fill wire holes on center column and fill all three with sand. Blue Tack the speakers- I'm using a NAD D3020 amp & sounds great to my ear. Music Direct gives you 60 days to check them out with your room & system, if you can't get a local shop to give a home trial.


I haven't listened to Elacs.  I understand they are pretty incredible for the money.  Thanks for the tip regarding a budget stand option.

Cheers!
Matthew

Dynaudio Emit 10-$799 list, Emit 20 -$999 list, Excite X14 $999- (Demo) online at Dedicated Audio. Like the Excite 14s a lot, haven't heard the Emits, but generally like Dynaudio. Nice blend with midcentury aesthetic.

@returntomusic -- Thank you! I have a local dealer I can demo Dynaudio at.
@glennewdick 
Proac Tablets or just about anything from them can find used in your price range.
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Example of something that would fit your room.



Canadian pricing so save 30%

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649335758-proac-studio-125-speakers/


Thank you!  Loving your suggestions and really like those ProAcs!!
BUT Im not sure the Rotel is musical or sweet sounding enough for that option. I say upgrade the amp first, then speakers will be easier to find that will work for you.

@mattmiller

Hi Matt,

I’m curious if you have any thoughts regarding the Marantz PM8005 or PM7005.

Last week I posted a thread in the Amp forum asking for Marantz recommendations. A lot of folks suggested to keep my Rotel and replace my Polks first. Now I am having second thoughts regarding that choice.

A local shop of mine had the Totem Dreamcatchers powered by the 30 W per channel NAD D 3020. I thought they sounded very musical powered by that NAD (which I also own). Do you think the Dreamcatchers will work well with the RA-12?


Thanks for your input!

Cheers,Matthew

@gdnrbob 

Thanks!  I really like the look of those Zu's.  Not sure if there is a local dealer for them or not.  I'll do more research on Zu.

I have seen Vandersteens recommended often, and looks like there are a few decent deals on eBay too. 
Hey folks,


Demoed some Elac Uni-Fi 5s today. I little above my price range and floorstanding, but they were impressive! Hopefully some of that trickles down to their other speakers. Looking forward to hearing more from Elac.
Many excellent speakers have been recommended. It seem that you can audition many of them. Do so. Good luck in your search.

@mesch Thanks!  I have visited a couple dealers this weekend.  The search is on!!
@leotis Thank you!  I like the Zus, but a little hesitant since I cannot audition them locally. I'll check out those Revels.


I am actually starting to lean towards towers.  Especially if I am going used market.
I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts regarding the Focal Chorus 714 S or the Wharfedale Diamond 230 towers.  There are a couple decent deals on Music Direct for those.  And their return policy is flexible enough in case they do not work out in my space.


Thanks!
Matthew

@kenwood61 

Thanks!  I have been eyeing Quads too, but am also unable to audition since I do not have a local dealer for them.  I listen to mostly jazz music, so based on your description they may fit the bill though.

May I ask what it was about the Wharfedales you didn't like?
@kenwood61  Thanks for explaining.  Helps me understand a little more about the Wharfedales.  I really like Quad's aesthetics and there are good deals out there for the 11Ls and 12Ls.  Really wish I could demo them locally though.  But oh well!

Kef LS50s are great too!  I demoed them at a local shop listening to jazz.  They were very musical.  Without a grille, and the high gloss finish, I am hesitant to have those with my 18 month old around.  That said, I have read that the Kef R100s share similar specs as the LS50s, but offer a wood cabinet and grille. 

Thanks again for all your input!


@gdnrbob // @willowbends 

 
Hey guys,

Thanks again for all the feedback and suggestions.  Long term I might be thinking Quads will be my speaker of choice.  

Money-wise, I ended up shifting things around to account for bigger summer/house project expenses, and decided to hold off on my main speaker upgrade.  To help satisfied the itch I did score a pair of Kirksaeter Silverline 60s for only $100.  And they are in perfect condition.

They're easy to drive, and really musical for my taste.  Plus the grilles aren't the easiest to move; ideal for my (now) 20 month year old who is very curious.  The wood trim offers some style, but I'm not too concerned about the MDF cabinets with the toddler playing around them.  

I know some of you may be scratching your head.  Wondering why I would prioritize my speaker choice with a toddler in mind, but the stereo is in a shared family space, and don't want to invest up to $1000 when I'll mostly be worrying about a hyperactive little boy playing around them.  So figure I'll keep saving, keep listening, and one day will start building a next level system.  

Thanks again.  And always be open to more input as I grow my system.

Cheers!
Matthew

@gdnrbob 

I believe those retailed for around $700.  
A local dealer to me has a used pair for $400: https://echohifi.com/details/11209/


Gosh, I wish I could score a $2k speaker for $100.  That would be amazing!
@gdnrbob 


Ha!  Thanks for that.  These little speakers are really nice.  Can't complain for $100.  

The Stereophile review is pretty accurate to how I hear them too.  

Little dude is definitely interested in what's going on with the stereo.  It'll be so much fun as he grows, and maybe, enjoy listening to music with his dad.  We'll see!
@willowbends 

Totally.  It's not so much a money thing right now, but a timing one.  With these summer months ahead it definitely makes more sense for us to prioritize the budget towards exterior house projects, small weekend trips, and so on. 

It also gives more time to really think about a system I want to put together.  I'm still learning a lot, and have always piecemeal-ed components.  But if I wait it couple be plausible that I'd be able to afford speakers and matching amp at the same time.  
@willowbends 

Thanks for sharing your experience with the Quads.  The more I read about Quad, the more I want to own a pair.  
@rackon 

  BTW, I have the PM8004, predecessor of the 8005, and it's a great amp. I generally feel you should match your amp to your speaker, not the other way around.



Thanks for the Triton recs! .

Happy with the 8005 so far.  Been swapping out with the Rotel RA-12 depending on my mood.  Both have very different sound from one another.  I'm noticing that I prefer the Marantz with older recordings, especially jazz, and more laid back, mellower music.  The Rotel shines with electronic and higher processed oriented production.  

For me, at the moment, I am mostly piecemealing because of budget constraints.  I'll keep saving, and hopefully will be able to purchase a decent speaker pair and amp combo at the same time.