Qobuz Users Update?


the service in the USA has been out a few months now. initial posters on this site commented on good sound quality in hi rez but a limited catalogue. I listen mostly to Jazz and Classical. Would anyone who has been a user from the get go please comment on your experience? I've been a Tidal guy for years and am fairly satisfied. Thanks to anyone taking the time to comment
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I was a Qobuz Beta Tester and have been using Qobuz for many months and doing most of my listing using their hi-res albums (24-bit/96 and 24-bit/192).   The setup was very easy.  I logged into Qobuz on my MAC Computer and created a Qobuz account.   I signed out and entered the login info on my Aurender N10 Music Server and I was connected to Qobuz.   The Aurender Conductor App interface is very easy to use, and I was ready to start Qobuz Streaming in less than 1 minute.  Connecting to Qobuz was very easy on my Aurender.    I assume connecting using other music servers is the same, but I really do not know.   I have not used the Qobuz computer interface other than for my initial signup.

The album section on Qobuz is very good.  I am able to find most of the albums I am interested in including jazz, blues and classical.  In most cases, I can always find another similar album that I like.   In any case, I can always find something to listen to that I like.  Qobuz non-hi-res albums are also very good since not every album is available on hi-res.

I have favorites on Tidal that, in some cases, are not on Qobuz.  The question is should I keep Tidal?   At this time, I probably will and see how it goes   I prefer to maintain my favorite albums on Tidal.   Of course, I also have favorites on Qobuz and they are a growing list.

Qobuz hi-res albums sound terrific.   Their hi-res sound quality is excellent and is much better than the non-hi-res albums.  Qobuz hi-res streaming is the REASON why you should subscribe to Qobuz.   IMHO, the hi-res sound quality is easily worth the price.   In other words, Qobuz is a recommended music streaming service.  

I have had no problems streaming Qobuz.  I did have some questions and Qobuz Technical Support answered them within 24 hours.  Based on what I am seeing, Qobuz is adding new albums to their catalog daily.   If needed, you can always request Qobuz add an album, or artist, you are interested in.   

 


Using Qobuz, the Lang Lane album “The Mozart” Album (in favorites) has no content.   I added this album to my Qobuz favorites several weeks ago and all content was displayed perfectly until today.  

What happen to its content?   I deleted the Lang Lang album and re-added it.  The missing content was returned.   I emailed Qobuz and asked why is this happening?  

I am using my Aurender N10 server and the Aurender Conductor App to access Qobuz.

Anyone else having this problem?



As pr my post above, Qobuz Customer Support reports “Please try to delete this from your favorites and put it back again: 0886444614023, Maybe it changed the catalog number”.   

I already HAD deleted the album and re-added and, yes, the content returned.   I am going to forget about it.  

I also agree with david_ten's post above.   As I said above, Qobuz hi-res albums sound terrific.   Their hi-res sound quality is excellent and is much better than the non-hi-res albums.  Qobuz hi-res streaming is the REASON WHY you should subscribe to Qobuz.   IMHO, the hi-res sound quality is easily worth the price.   In other words, Qobuz is a recommended music streaming service.  I also find myself listening more  to Qobuz Hi-Res Albums than Tidal.    I subscribe to both and probably will continue both subscriptions for a while.  We will see.    



This post is for Aurender users only using the Aurender Conductor App:

For the Qobuz tab, If you enter the words #hires in the search box, all the Res Albums will be displayed.  This is exactly what I was looking for.  This is great news.

I do not know if the above will work for other music severs but you probably should test it to see what happens.     
+1, @jond.  Thanks for the update and I am happy your Tidal and Qobuz sound quality has improved.  This is a perfect example of the fine tuning required to get the best quality from music streaming.   As noted, the simple task of moving the wireless gateway to another room solves the problem.  Great job.

Excellent sound quality that is available from Qobuz and Tidal REQUIRES all components to be working 100%.   This includes the streamer, hard drives, modem, router, switch box, Internet signal strength, all other Internet components, DAC, external ISP amplifiers, cables and everything else.   Unfortunately, if some of these components are not working correctly, you are going to get poor streaming results and poor sound quality.    

Any streaming service (Tidal, QoBuz, etc.) requires a fully operational network.  This means your modem, router, Internet cable signal being in range and all other related parts must be working correctly.  

At the beginning, I had serious router issues and several Internet Service Provider (ISP) issues requiring several house calls to repair.  My first router dropped packets and my 2nd router could not handle the streaming load.  My third router, Luxul XWR3100 and XAP1510 KIT, is now working fine.

As was noted above, streaming issues concerning instability, or sound poor quality, usually mean something is wrong with your network.  My ISP Tech updated my in-house cables and corrected the wiring in my outside junction box.

Yes, I had similar instability issues caused by a corroded outside ISP junction box and issues with an ISP down-stream amplifier.  My cable signal strength also needed adjusting (this issue caused my instability and poor sound quality issues).

Streaming requires these parts to be OPERATING at full capacity.  If you have instability issues, I suggest you investigate all the areas mentioned above.   No, it is not easy and requires a cooperative ISP Tech to help identify and correct these issues.  You should also confirm your modem can handle the streaming load.  If it is old, you might need to replace it.  

Once your network is correctly operating, you should be able to successfully stream these services.  Unfortunately, I had all the above issues and it took me several weeks to get everything corrected.  I am now streaming Tidal and Qobuz perfectly with no drop outs or related cable signal issues.  Sound quality is excellent.

It is not easy getting all these parts working.  You have to have patience and contact your ISP for assistance, when needed.  I fully explained my streaming instability issues were impacting my listening to my music and the ISP Tech knew exactly what was needed.  I suggest you start with your router first and then your cable company.  As I stated above, every single part in the streaming chain needs to be confirmed it is working correctly.

My Qobuz sound quality is now excellent and I  enjoying their hi-res albums very much.   Streaming and poor sound quality issues need to have the above mentioned components checked AND, if needed, an email to Qobuz for additional assistance.  Musical streaming is complicated because of the many moving parts that need to be working.  Sometimes it is not plug and play and requires additional research and efforts to get everything work.    Please do not give up.

I hope the above helps.  


As I previously reported, I am anxiously waiting for Qobuz to complete their API for my Aurender N10 music server so I can sort my album favorites by artist name.  This API will help me find my albums.   Aurender Customer Support reports they are also waiting for the API related rollout information.  They will need to update their Conductor App.  Other server type vendors will also need to implement the API assuming they decide to support it.

I emailed Qobuz today and asked when they expect to release the API that will enable me to sort my album favorites by artist name, etc.  Sorting my albums into artist name sequence is a high priority item for me so I am looking for its rollout.

I have dropped Tidal Streaming so Qobuz is my only quality streaming service and I like it very much.
Qobuz reports “Our API is completely revamping the whole system in order to provide first in class metadata to our third party partners. I don't have a time line for you outside of early falll 2019. I wish I could provide you with more information about it”.    

I do not know what the first in class metadata means.   Maybe our 3rd party Apps will have access to additional album info.    So, now, we wait a little longer.  


Qobuz has 117 available playlists and they are terrific. For example, listen to Prestige 70 Jazz classics for 70 handpicked jazz tracks.  Many of them are in the hi-res format.  

This Qobuz playlist is 7 hours and 38 minutes long. This makes listening to music very easy.  Enjoy.   

On my Aurender, I go to the playlist tab and look for Qobuz playlists that I like.  The Conductor App has a search option for the 117 playlists. This is very useful to find interesting playlists. .