Preamp after Manley Steelhead?


Hi guys.
Should I need to place a Pre-amp after my Steelhead and before the power amps, do you suggest to use the variable outs from the steelhead or the fixed outputs?
Thanks
Mark
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The Steelhead on its own is a good preamp. I was a little annoyed when a local audio engineer looked inside the chassis and pointed out all the cheap, bad sounding components.... but intrigued by the thought of what could be possible with the Steelhead after a little mod work.

I used the Steelhead MM inputs and fixed output running into a LAMM L2 preamp. The LAMM improved on the Manley line/buffer considerably.

The sound of the Steelhead with stock Sovtek 6922's and (GE -JAN) 7044's is interesting but somewhat barbaric. Replacing the 6922's with Telefunken CCa's maintains the clarity of the Steelhead while adding a degree of sophistication in the form of less edge.

I think the stock 7044 tubes are the primary problem with the Manley line stage because they are quite harsh. I often felt as if I was being assaulted by the music. Trading in some Tung Sol 5867's seemed to immediately cure the harshness and sounded quite nice - but after a few hours warm up, the sound became dark & closed in. This is strange because in most applications, the TS 5867 is punchy and open sounding. Perhaps they are running the buffer stage too hot? Usually causes darkening with power tubes.

Ultimately, I left the 7044's in place. Even though they were harsh, I think they were more accurate than the TS tubes.

Anyhow.. Perhaps some 7119's would help? I don't know but would have liked to try them.

As stated above, I used the LAMM L2 with the Manley fixed output (bypass the buffer tubes). With the LAMM everything was just right.
Yes at the $7300 price point, you'd think that they were using the best parts possible. The engineer was gently jiggling all the electrolytic capacitors and saying how their being kind of loose would effect the sound too. There were numerous areas he thought the unit could be improved upon - including the somewhat thin chassis acting like a spring. Perhaps if you have someone knowledgeable like that in your area, it might be worth taking a look.

The idea of modifying a Steelhead is pretty exciting because the fundamental product with all its "cheap" parts is quite good.

Oh... Also... I measured 5.5 inches behind the Steelhead attenuator - I think that is enough space to accommodate the DACT attenuator and remote control motor kit from DIYCable.com This would certainly add to the convenience of the Manley Steelhead.