Perception and Watts: Doubling of power


There's a curious rule of thumb, which to my ears seems mostly true:

  • To double the perceived volume, you must output 10x more power.

10x power = 10 dB by the way.  We've read this as we were buying amps and trying to decide between 100w/channel and 150w/channel.  We are told, repeatedly that 50 W difference isn't really that much.

On more than one occasion I've tested this and found it's pretty much spot on.  Here's my question:

How can any of us really tell what half as loud, or twice as loud is?

I mean, think about this for a bit.  I cannot tell half as bright, or twice as bright, but it seems I actually CAN tell what half as loud is.  How does this even begin to work in the ear/brain mechanism?? 😁

erik_squires

Showing 1 response by perkri

Couple of things come to mind. 
 

When you buy an amp w twice the rated power, the power supply in that amp is generally much bigger than in the smaller one. 
 

As was mentioned in a post above, a bigger amp playing at the same volume as a smaller amp will sound more dynamic - provided they are built to the same quality level. I tend to believe this difference is connected to the size of the power supply, more so than the power (watt)  capability of the amp. The Hiraga Super 30 watt class A amp I built, has 192K uF in the PS, with a 500VA transformer. People build these amps with insane amounts of capacitance, but for this built, I went with this. Next time I build this amp, I’ll be building it as a dual mono design with greater capacitance in the storage so I can hear first hand how that translates into real world listening experience. 
 

I recently built a single ended EL84 based amp. It’s about 3 watts. Love the sound, but want a bit more usable volume. So I’m about to built a single ended EL34 based amp that will get me approximately 6 watts. Double the power. Different tubes and circuit design, I know, but I’m just curious how that 6 watts will present compared to 3 watts. 3 watts don’t mean a hill of beans if your amp is pushing 200watts into the speakers, but going from 3 to 6 is doubling the power. Thankfully, going from 3 to 6 watts is a heck of a lot less expensive than going from 150 to 300 watts :)