Next upgrade, DartZeel or Ayre


Due to heat and space, I am considering DartZeel or Ayre as both are solid state and take up less space than my current system. I understand DartZeel pre and power work best together, similarly for Ayre KX-R and MX-R, so I will get the combo to achieve the best synergy. DartZeel has built-in phono, Ayre does not, so I will have to keep my Einstein phono stage if I go with Ayre.

Has anyone compared the combo? My current speakers are SF Amati Homage & Guarneri Memento with JL F113, either combo can drive my speakers well since I don't listen loud. I do like the extra power from Ayre which gives me more options for speaker upgrade later. But if DartZeel is superior, I am willing to live with the lower power rating and shop my next speaker within DartZeel's capability.

Any input is appreciated.
semi

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Semi, i have only heard the Ayre amps at shows and dealers; never in my system. they are very good. i don't really feel i can comment on exactly how they compare to the dart without some sort of head to head.

i do have lots of experience with the darTZeel in my room on Kharmas, Von Schweikerts, and now the Evolution MM3's. my previous amps were the Tenor OTL and Tenor hybrids. the darTZeel were the first solid state amp i heard that did not sound anything like solid state; and seem to have a sense of that tube-like 'breath of life' that the Tenors had; but with the linearity of solid state. the darts also have a micro-dynamic life which is alive sounding. yes; they also do bass slam and exceptional bass articulation assuming your speakers are reasonable loads. one area where tube lovers are typically very sensitive is how tubes do the high frequencies. the dart is very sweet in the highs and yet has more extension. one thing that stood out to me was the extremely low noise floor of the dart.

if you read the white paper on the dart website you will get a better idea on Herve's approach to using no global negative feedback and the use of very few output devices. also; the dart has an ability to turn off DC offset for even more transparency. it is no accident the dart is such a natural sounding 'sweet' solid state amp.

i have lots of visitors to my room, many of which are tube lovers. most of these people comment on how 'non-solid state' that the darts sound. they don't miss tubes in my system.

there is no one perfect amp for everyone and every system context. i have heard many excellent solid state amps.

OTOH i prefer the darTZeel to any amp i have heard and there are no solid state amps that would be alternatives for me in my system. my next choices would be the new Tenor Hybrids, maybe the Lamm ML2.1's, or maybe the AN Kegon's......anyway, you get the idea.

regarding the dart pre; it's in the very top class of preamps and i love it. the phono stage is as good as i have heard. i love the way it works and it's flexibility. the proprietary 'zeel' internnects between the dart pre and amp are very inexpensive and are equal or better to the very best interconnects. battery power, as done by darTZeel, is ideal for a preamp.

overall; darTZeel fit and finish is as good as it gets.

good luck with your choice.
Bar 81,

i took no offense and don't think you intended offense by your comment;

5) Note that Mike is using a system almost fully comprised of gear that comes from one dealer that has I'm sure made sure the voicing is ideal.

OTOH your comment does infer that somehow the source of my gear means there is a need to combine my specific combination of gear to get my results from the dart amp and pre. i don't think there is any evidence to support that meaning. unless somehow my dealer sells the only gear that is musically accurate and natural sounding.

of course; there are many choices of gear which would compliment the darTZeel products and result in the same type perceptions i have written. any natural sounding speaker with a reasonable efficiency and impedence will sound exceptional with the darTZeel.....or let's say it will sound better on the darTZeel than most if not all other amps i have heard. the same with sources and so on.