Major EXOGAL Comet/Ion problems


Five years ago I bought an Exogal Comet to use as a DAC with my Rogue Medusa amplifier. It proved itself an excellent unit in all respects and I was positively impressed with the company's support and helpfulness. A year ago I bought the matching Exogal Ion amplifier (at considerable expense) to go with the Comet and was delighted. (The Medusa was wonderful but I wanted something with a smaller footprint). 

Reviewers have invariably criticized the Comet's diminutive window for being extremely difficult to read and the cheapness of the remote control. Noting these deficiencies, the TAS reviewer Vade Forrester (June 24, 2015) wrote, "I learned the Comet is really intended to be operated remotely from an iPhone or iTouch." My experience was that the window and remote were exercises in frustration, but that the Apple application I downloaded from the Exogal site for my iPad was ideal; I had total control over the unit and the app was a delight to use--very Space Age. For the record, I liked the Comet so much I unloaded my Rogue RP 1 and used it as a preamp. 

All was well until I got a new iPad and couldn't download the application. When I called Exogal I received a somewhat garbled account that Apple was no longer permitting them to use the application. Ditto with Android. After a while they announced a remote control module was being developed and in the pipeline. They sent me an experimental prototype that in my opinion wasn't much of an improvement over the original. On the few occasions I can reach them they say it will be ready in a week but weeks have passed. This is tantamount to having a fancy TV where it is a major struggle to perform a simple action like change the channels! 

Exogal is singularly uncommunicative about this problem. Their website is scarcely used and they seem to have moved over to Facebook. The strangest thing is that on the website they list under "Products" a series of four Vortex streamers, described in detail, that apparently were never manufactured! They don't answer their emails. They say their site has been hacked and various other things. In a rare new posting on their website and Facebook they claim the they have just opened a distributorship in Europe. This raises the question how are the European purchasers going to operate their units? None of this inspires consumer confidence.  

My point here is that when someone spends 7k and above on supposedly elite components they deserve responses and explanations. It is Exogal's responsibility to ascertain that these units are operable as designed. I have to question the business sense of relying on an outside entity like Apple that is notorious for being proprietary. It is totally unbusinesslike not to make a public explanation of these issues with a timetable to correct them. Customers should not have to go foraging around Audigon forums to learn what is, or isn't, happening. 

Now the window on the Comet periodically goes blank (it was never even illuminated). Having 7k worth of Exogal equipment that is extremely difficult to operate, I went and bought a Wyred 4 Sound integrated and a Black Ice DAC so I can actually listen to something without a struggle. The Exogal stuff is in a box waiting for who knows what. I am beginning to think that Exogal is indeed out of this galaxy, but for all the wrong reasons. This is very surprising because a couple of years ago they were exemplary in all respects. I would like to hear from other frustrated owners to see what solutions they have devised. 
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Showing 8 responses by rtorchia

Buy an RME and enjoy fantastic performance and simplicity of operation —you don’t even need a flashlight and magnifying glass to read the display. 

I am sympathetic but they need to step forward and let people know what is happening. Being evasive and hoping the problems will go away is not helpful. They are saying they have a European distributer which indicates that possibly the remote module is out. Otherwise you would have to be crazy to buy the brand. 
I have to say that for this outlay of money  we should have something better than functionally adequate, to use your characterization. Also, I was part of the same trial and I did not feel the remote replacement worked very well. This product is, was, application based as the designers openly stated in their own advertising and as they were themselves quoted in reviews. No application means pretty close to unusable product.

If those among you who like the Comet are out on the West Coast why not send one to Amir at Audio Science Review for testing? That would be a real contribution to this subject. It would be extremely enlightening to put this unit to the test and determine if it is objectively makes the grade. 

Just for the record, I would not pay more than USD 1200 for a mint Comet with box and all the et ceteras. Most people bought these when they were offered by Underwood at under USD 2,000 some years ago, so ignore the high list price. 

I have no idea why you would want to buy a unit with which you have already had a negative experience. Also, DACs have really improved in both technology and price over the years so you would be buying something rather dated and extremely awkward to use. The single thing to recommend about the Comet is the aluminum case.

I strongly recommend the RME ADI-2 which you can get new for under the used price of this unit. Another fine option is the Topping DX 7 pro plus. Both of these have fine headphone amps built in; the Topping goes for well under USD 1,000. Read some of the reviews on Audio Science Review. Last but not least, both these units and their relatives actually have screens that you can read without a magnifying glass!  

I believe that very late on Exogal made a superior remote that cost around $100  because the original one was bad. You should probably try to get one of those. I took part in a program to use the prototypes for these so they sent all participants a free remote. Truth be told, it was an improvement but not that great. Even a good company like RME supplies an awful remote.