Depends on the size...1.6s and bigger...plenty of bass slam even without a sub...smaller mg12s, MMGs, etc. require a sub for bass dominant material/classic rock...however even larger Maggies have very well-controlled bass which if your coming from a box design that has a warm mid-bass or lower...takes a bit to get used too...but bass is highly subjective...I tend to prefer lean bass over bloated bass
