Large listening room


Not sure where else to post this. I am new and am creating a 2ch system to go in a largish (18x16) room.
Right now, I am using an ayre cdp, a mcintosh ma6900 integrated and B&W 805s's with a sub.
I am starting to feel like the 805s's are too small.
Has anyone had success in a larger room?
If so, please share your experiences.
Thanks in advance!
jimmy3993

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unfortunatly, this room is doing triple duty. It is for listening, HT and a playspace for my little one.
Far from ideal, I know.
Basically, COmpnents are set up across one of the 16 foot walls and seating is across the other. I might be able to get away with bringing the couch in a couple of feet but the floor needs to be open and clear for my little girl to play.
As a side note, I am looking at bringing the 805s's down to a much smaller study (not sure, but less than 10x10) to see what that room sounds like.
For the larger room, I do need the space, so does anyone have ideas for a seating area that is 15 feet from the plane of the speakers?
Never claimed to be a genius...
Just occured to me that the cheapest solution would be to buy a chair that could be moved into a corner during regular life and then brought into the middle of the room for listening sessions...
Cheaper than floorstanding speakers or a seperate system in another smaller room.
Not nearly as much fun though. Im gonna pull a chair up there tonight and try it out.
THX!
I am using a sub and like the integration that I am getting. I feel like I am losing detail being so far away from the speakers.
I liek the idea of keeping the couch where i tis and moving the speakers for listening. Even if the stands are heavy. It would allow for a lot of space behind the speakers which seems to help them with soundstage depth.
Gonna try that and bringing a chair into the room too.
tried pulling the speakers forward. This was tough though b/c I spent most of my time futzing with the speaker positioning.
The big thing that I was aware of was the increase in soundstage depth. Seemed like the performers were all in space between and behind the speakers.
Will keep playing with position for a few days. If I can make this work it will have the highest WAF of all possible options.
Thanks to all for the help. will report back in a few days.
spent the day playing with different options. The hassle factor of repositioning speakers in the large room for near field listening is too great. Plus I didnt really like the sound quality up in my face like that.
But I did like pulling some B&W 685's from another room in to a small study. makes me think that I might jus tlet the "home theater room" be the home theater room and make a listening room in the smaller study.
Now if I could just find that smare $10k that was in my other pants pocket...
Ok, have done some experimenting and here is where I am now:
Tried dragging a small chair out in to the middle of the room (leaving the speakers about 3ft from rear wall). That was an improvement. It would be much cheaper to buy a comfortable chair than new speakers.
But - also listening to full range speakers in hopes of generating a more room filling sound. Have heard Vienna acoustics Beethoven baby grand, Maggie 1.6, B&W 804s and 802d. Will also check out Usher and Dali.
I was really struck by the physical sensation of a kick drum with the Viennas. But the set up was poor and there was no imaging. I am going to go back and hear them again. The Vienna sales manager (Sumiko seems to hire very helpful folks) said that I would be very happy with the Beethovens but even more so with the Mahlers. While it would be tough to be sales manager if that was not your opinion it still was nice to hear.
The B&W were set up in bad rooms at a home theater store that makes their money selling plasma TVs. The B&W's were powered by big McIntosh monos. Even the 802d's seemed "ordinary". This was supremely disappointing because I went in there with the subliminal desire to be blown away by the 802d's to such an extent that I would be compelled to find a way to afford them. I will have to go up to Austin to hear them at another dealer in hopes of getting a better sense of what they can do.
The Maggies provided the best sensation of "through the back wall of the room" sound staging. The electronics for the Maggies were entry level arcam. But at the end of the day I will never get something that looks like the maggies past the "in house decorating committee."
Next, I will hear the little Usher Dancers on Monday. They have a rep for producing a big sound for their size. I am also told that there will be a $5kish new dancer floor stander coming out soon and I want to see what all the "Be" fuss is about.
Shadorne-
Of course you are right. I wrote down my first impressions after the initial demos. That is all. What i really want is bigger soundstage, more complete range and a speaker that sounds as "right" to me playing Tool as Tori Amos.
Oh yea - and it has to look good and cost about 5 or 6k.
Shadorne -
Good point. When I go back, I will bring my own disk and ask for the remote. They seem to like to run the volume real high @ demos. I think that I will also take notes.
And when I get to the point that I am ready to buy from a retail dealer, I'm gonna ask to bring the demos home for a couple of days.
Any other tips would be appreciated.
Heard Audio Physic scorpio. VA Mahler, PSB Synchrony. Settled on the scorpios. I think that I am partial to treble detail which is why I was drawn to the 805s's in the first place. I really wanted to like the viennas more because a friend who's ear I really respect thinks highly of them but after giving my subconcious some time to digest the auditions I found myself coming back to the scorpios.
As luck would have it, a pair came up here for sale about the same time...
Had to sell my CDP to raise the extra money but it didnt get much use anyway.
Johnss
That makes sense. Do you have a fave test cd?
I haven't done this work yet but I think that I need to.