I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged.


I just can't clear my head of this. I don't want to start a measurements vs listening war and I'd appreciate it if you guys don't, but I bought a Rogue Sphinx V3 as some of you may remember and have been enjoying it quite a bit. So, I head over to AVS and read Amir's review and he just rips it apart. But that's OK, measurements are measurements, that is not what bugs me. I learned in the early 70s that distortion numbers, etc, may not be that important to me. Then I read that he didn't even bother listening to the darn thing. That is what really bugs me. If something measures so poorly, wouldn't you want to correlate the measurements with what you hear? Do people still buy gear on measurements alone? I learned that can be a big mistake. I just don't get it, never have. Can anybody provide some insight to why some people are stuck on audio measurements? Help me package that so I can at least understand what they are thinking without dismissing them completely as a bunch of mislead sheep. 

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I wonder what is sound like?

 

This video created by the Field medallist Alain connes gives an idea of the music hidden in the distribution of the  primes numbers...

Numbers are not material appearing object for the sense...they are more REAL than usual object... Why? Because anything existing is a manifestation of their dynamics which is a " music" in the way the Indian scientist describe fractal time-loke sets of ticking clocks...Rythms that organize everything... Love is a sound not only a light ...OM...AUM or AMEN....Nevermind the religion...

Numbers are not objects either. Just saying.

Not really. Nails scratching on aboard might be represented by numbers. Or the sound of a nuclear blast. But is that music? Maybe. Digital recordings are all numbers but need not all be considered music. Music is a matter of popular opinion. If enough people call it music then it is music. The numbers alone accomplish nothing.  You need a mathematical model that accurately represents all people.  That’s complex!   Good luck!   Better get busy!

"Silence is never  muted, and all music is not heard»-Anonymus Smith

"Tree speaks"-Anonymus tree lover

You need a mathematical model that accurately represents all people. That’s complex! Good luck! Better get busy!

This is precisely what Anirban Bandyopadhyay works is all about:

Creating the first artificial consciousness not an A. I. with bit and Q-bits but a new way to implement information with timelike crystals and geometrical patterns... And it is the FIRST TIME someone figure out how...

it is the reason why i am amazed...This is the greatest paradigm change in science right now...

Not really. Nails scratching on aboard might be represented by numbers. Or the sound of a nuclear blast. But is that music?

In a way yes... If we were really conscious and in a contemplative mode all there is will put us in an ectasy...No need to any drugs....

Try an experience...

 

 

Read Goethe "the plant metamorphosis"....you will fell out of your chair why?

Because you will realized that in spite of looking at flowers all your life you never really SEEN one...

After that try the book about mammals of Wolfgang Schad... same experience with any mammal, you look at them but you NEVER has seen one...

For sound , any sound in nature the experience is the same... It is a language but you never listen to it...

All around us is miracles... Only zombies dont see that.... Ask Galileo if the laws of nature are not miraculously informative, or Kepler listening music through the orbits of the planets...Etc...

 

For me for example the discovery by listening experiments of the acoustic of small room was an amazing journey in lived day by day small miracles...

For others it can be anything else...

 

« We dont lack miracles, we lack the eyes to see them»-anonymus contemplative

 

«Life is not boring, we are...»-Groucho Marx 🤓