Horn speakers are really bright?


So I’m trying to understand why so many people think klipsch or horn speakers are bright 

I have two  set up garage and living room both with horn speakers EPIC CF4 garage and and KLF 30 mahogany living room  

I have recorded this songs with my iPhone  listen to them and feel free to tell me what you don’t like about them
 by the way I don’t have any room treatment

EPIC CF4 GARAGE
https://youtu.be/9k6uIj8sZgk

KLF30 LIVING ROOM  
https://youtu.be/er4zllSgekU
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My friend who a DIY speakers builder come to conclusion that compression drivers with metal diaphragms are so transparent and detailed and it shows imperfection of electronics.

One example from my experience, when I just bought 300B amplifier I used it with Spendor 2/3 and Altec 604E speakers. With Spendors sound was good but with Altec was some harshness. In the end the reason was bad (harsh sounding) cheap 6f6 drivers tube. When I replaced them to better 6f6 harshness on Altecs was gone. But on other hand, Spendors didn't sound harsh even with the bad 6f6!

Hi @unreceivedogma,

I use Altec 604E with original and Werner Jagusch crossovers. 

The horn of 604E compression driver has an issue - ringing on 7.5KHz.

Mastering Labs crossover filter out this frequency. It also suppresses upper bass and lower mid and increases mid and low bass. I never heard Mastering Labs crossover.

Werner Jagusch crossover suppresses high frequencies from 5KHz and up. So sound become very smooth but very dark. It partially can be compensated by external super-tweeter.

The original N1500 sounds bright when high frequency regulator is on maximum. But with some high frequency regulator adjustment -3.5dB (7.5 Ohm on part of potentiometer that serial with compression driver) the sound become well balanced.  In this case external super-tweeter helps to get more refined sound. I just built this crossover using original inductors, good quality capacitors and constant value resistors. I like n1500 more than Werner Jagusch. n1500 gives a better more focused soundstage, flatter more neutral response on high frequencies. Plus original n1500 inductor give more controlled bass.

I use Fostex T90a supertweeter. I used it with 1st order crossover (like 99% people do) for 1 year and moved on to 4th order crossover, that give me a huge improvement.

 

Regards,

Alex