“Hamilton” is a Rap masterpiece!


“I’m not throwing away my shot!”
Third time may be a charm.
Yes, true that much of Rap is strident and confrontational. Not mention the other negative elements.
But in my examination of many of the suggestions of people’s favorite Rap, I have indeed, discovered many pieces that are brilliant and fascinating. There is no denying that the musical value is extreme and undeniable.
A true art form developed over decades, there is much true innovation.
My personal taste leans heavily toward traditional song structure and, as such, prefers Rap with strong melodic elements. However, I understand the passion and creativity behind Rap based on a more rhythmic basis. Also true that the ever present anger is difficult to take but understandable. It is sad that there is so much.
But it is absolutely clear that “Hamilton” is a modern masterpiece of Rap. Brilliantly telling the story of this central figure in our founding. Engaging and gripping.
The last two Rap threads were shut down because members were frequently criticized for their opinions.
There is no question that Rap engenders much feeling. Can we agree to disagree?

mglik

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@ghasley 

Does a liberal also call people who object to a piece of art, a racist
as your friend Orpheus did here?
 
It's apparent to me that the deleters here at Agon are the problem. They got some kind of "Black people Psychosis"



@ghasley
I would much rather leave politics out of this board. But the can of worms  has been opened and erroneous ideas abound. 

You say revisionist history is good. That is nonsense. In a court of law, the witnesses to an event are most reliable, NOT the one who heard about is 4-5-6th hand in the neighborhood gossip. Its called revisionist because it contradicts the eyewitness accounts with an interpretation most often more suitable for their bias. In college I did Master’s papers base or original sources which are witnesses to the event and/or the 1st hand info. That is what true historians look at, Not gossip. But there again, I suppose it fits your bias. Too bad you don’t value truth.

I suspect your interpretation of what a liberal is, is what most people want, liberal or Conservative. The rub comes in how we accomplish these things. We disagree. But worse still is that we can no longer have a civil conversation because the liberal CANNOT defend his ideas on the merits of their argument. One psychiatrist wrote a book entitled "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder". After spending years debating them on various political forums I sense that is correct.
However, I also doubt that many who claim liberalism as their political stance are actually liberal. And certainly not today where the Marxist faction has taken over the Democrat Party with Fake news as the propaganda arm.


You say there is no cancel culture all the while people voices are being silenced if they do not go along with the propaganda. Doctors are silenced for prescribing a KNOWN treatment for covid because the Liberals & Marxists don't want it used. Opinion writers like Glenn Greenwald et al are routinely dismissed from their platform because they have a different opinion. People leave Facebook because they have been silenced by "fact checkers from Communist China among others. Others here call for MC's removal because they disagree with his opinion. I could give more examples about voting irregularities, revisionist history, etc, but I highly doubt you will ever do any true research on your own to try to prove me wrong. I suspect your mind has been conditioned to believe what you want to believe. I’ve asked too many libs/Marxists to do their own research and not take my word for it. I got cancelled by all the ones I asked to do that. As I said previously, this usually leads to bloodshed sooner or later.



OP
Can we agree to disagree?
We quit agreeing to disagree, 10-15 yrs ago. Now we have cancel culture like @flynnrd has proposed for MC. Guess where this came from? This is what happens when a group of people cannot win the debate on the merits of their ideas alone which I can guarantee applies to @flynnrd and others here who call for MC’s cancellation. .

Study some history, especially that of 1933-1942 Germany. Cancellation of people who’s ideas you do not agree morphs into cancelling (killing) the person &/or group sooner or later. Germany, Armenia, and countless genocides started in the same way. When agreeing to disagree disappears, bloodshed usually follows.

I cannot speak to "Hamilton" except from sources I trust. I believe they agree that it is revisionist history. I know that IMO, they did themselves no favors by calling out & belittling the VP when he was in the audience, rather than continuing the show.
@orpheus10

This "Liberal" "Conservative" dichotomy was created by the racist who divide and conquer.

Divide & conquer is definitely taking place. But "racist" is the new term used for that very thing.

But a question please about Hamilton. I have not seen it but read the "cliff Notes’ perse’. Why is a black cast performing the life of Hamilton? Or is it a completely black cast? Is it their interpretation of Hamilton, the US or something else? Thanks

Gotta go to birthday party now for a lovely 7 yr old niece.