Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
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Alex, what are the substantial differences, if any, between the 3910 and the 5910; that is, what would be gained by modding the 5910, and what would be the cost beyond suggested retail? I apologize if these questions have already been addressed.
This has been a very informative - and entertaining - thread. Since I am in the process of upgrading my digital front end I have appreciated the sincere efforts and opinions of all involved. Tbg mentioned the Einstein, which he intends to check out at CES. Hopefully those of you who make it to LV will also check out Ayre's new dedicated 2-channel, CD/SACD/DVD-A rig. I'll be working while you guys are playing so I'll look forward to your reports.
AVGURU, I have a 2910 in my HT system and it may end up going to APL or Exemplar for mods, but my music system will remain 2-channel...for now anyway. Short list for my upgrade includes the Esoteric X-01, and the Meridian 808 (absolutely exceptional, but limited to redbook). Will be auditioning the new Ayre (believe it will be designated C5XE) in January. Steve Silverman at Ayre suggests that its redbook playback will rival the D1X - or any other platform out there...we'll see. I also like Charlie Hansen's lineup, because, unlike a lot of folks here on Audiogon, I prefer balanced electronics. Look forward to your observations re the Ayre. Best wishes from the Left Coast - have a happy and productive New Year!
Thanks Alex. I have other some other concerns but I'll wait until after CES to run them by you.
Brian, I agree with Tim (Tbabb) re selection of tracks. Redbook and hi-rez should be a/b'd; also try to include different genres - after all, the challenges presented by large orchestral music are different than those presented by acoustic jazz or rock. I'm looking forward to reading the results/observations.
FWIW, double-pressed anchovy oil emits less odor and offers a more uniform residue dispersion. Last time I looked it was still available at Rat Shack. If you prefer a smoother, tubey sound, peanut oil (preferably Indonesian stock) is the ticket!