Does anything better Jelco arm ~$1000


Been reading about the Jelco 850L and the other newer models as I look for arm with budget of ~ $1000 (new or used) to go with a Sota Star and Dynavector XX2mkII. Not a ton of user comments, but just about every one I've read (here, VA, vinylengine, and a few smaller boards) all imply thrilled owners and not a one who regrets the purchase. Sound quality performance value for its price is reportedly high and that has been my experience when I've heard the older 750 series and even their lower priced arms. Another arm under consideration is the Audiomods Series V.

My take so far:
Jelco: pro - longstanding reputation for quality, demonstrated by so many OEM arms provided to turntable manufacturers, good fit & finish, compatibility w/many carts of varying compliance, flexibility of changing headshells(including w/azimuth adjustment), high likelihood of parts/service if ever needed, likely decent resale value if I ever choose to go in another direction.
cons: extra electrical connection points @ armtube and headshell, lack of precise repeatable VTA adjustment (although EasyVTA aftermarket product can address this), knife edge bearings theoretically an improvement, but my impression is that in practice they often aren't ideal. 

To use a car analogy is this the Toyota Camry of tonearms? 

The Audiomods Series V:
pros: keeps the best aspect of the new Rega arm and replaces almost everything else with better design and quality parts, precise micrometer VTA adjustment, silver wire one piece loom from pins to plugs
cons: one man company uncertainties on parts/service if ever needed, relatively little user base or resale market, no opportunity to listen before buying,  a bit more costly than the Jelco. 
Hoping it's not a Saab 900; really cool when they were around but at some point a quirky performer from days gone by that might not be a keeper.

So anybody care to chime in on these or others that fit the bill in the same price range? If you're curious, the rest of the system is here: Austin City Within Limits. Cheers,
Spencer 
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Spencer, George Merrill sells the 850L for $895. Batman reports that the 850 blows away the 750.
Agreed. The 750 (550) is outclassed by the 850 and is a no-brainer to outlay the extra cash. I have both and the 850 is better - more spacious, deeper stage, musically more cohesive, colorful, more incisive highs, smoother but with more detail.
^ I have two 12" 750 arms and find the highs fine. However, noting what @karl_desch says about the Audiomods having better treble extension, the new Jelco 850 has excellent highs - an order of magnitude better than the 750. Overall the 850 is a far better arm.
@sbank The Jelco phono cable is more than fine. I would get it and not worry for a while about spending more. I have tried others 2 or 3 times the price and went back to the Jelco one.
Dynamic is better with lower compliance cartridges. I run low compliance Decca on an 850 and warps and lead-in groove damage can cause it to jump. I have not heard the 950.
@gpdavis1 I use the 850L and it’s very good. I have heard the Sorane ZA12 at $2500 and it is excellent. But now you are up there. You could also check out the Groovemaster ll at around $1850. These arms are best with low compliance cartridges.
What are you using now?
The Micro Seiki sag. Caused by the rubber bending. Probably not the end of the world. But you know that from your research. Jelco and its OEM arms use rubber stems for the c/w. It may be for 2 reasons. 1. It's cheaper. 2. to absorb resonances. I replaced mine with an after-market brass one to good effect on a 750 once. Having the c/w on a different plane seems to have a superior sonic outcome, especially on unipivots.