DAC Shootout Starts This Weekend


Okay...in another thread I promised to do a side-by-side evaluation of the Audiobyte HydraVox/Zap vs the Rockna Wavelight. Due to the astonishing incompetence of DHL this has been delayed. At the moment, I have a plethora of DACs here and am going to do a broader comparison.

I am going to do a compare of the Rockna Wavelight, Rockna Wavedream Signature, Audiobyte HydraVox/Zap, Chord Hugo 2, Chord Hugo TT2, Bricasti M3, Bricasti M1 Special Edition, Weiss 501 and the internal DAC card for an AVM A 5.2 Integrated amp as a baseline.

For sake of consistency, I am going to use that same AVM integrated amp driving Vivid Kaya 45s. I may branch out and do some listening on other speakers (Verdant Nightshade of Blackthorn and/or Wilson Benesch Vertexes) but want to use the Vivids for every compare as they are the fullest range speakers I have here. For sake of consistency I will use a Chord 2Go/2Yu connected via an Audioquest Diamond USB as a renderer. The only exception is the Hugo 2 which has a 2Go directly attached to it. I will use a Roon Nucleus+ as a server in all cases.

My plan is to use the same five songs on every DAC; In a Sentimental Mood from Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, Be Still My Beating Heart from Sting, Liberty from Anette Askvik, Duende from Bozzio Levin Stevens and Part 1 of Mozart String Quartet No 14 in G Major from the Alban Berg Quartet. The intent is to touch on different music types without going crazy.

I will take extensive notes on each listening session and write up a POV on the strengths of each unit. I am going to start this this Friday/Saturday and will be writing things up over the next month or so. If you have thoughts, comments or requests, I will be happy to try and accommodate. The one thing I am not going to do is make the list of songs longer as that has an exponential impact on this and make everything much harder. If and when other DACs come in on trade I may add to the list through time.
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@verdantaudio, Great thread and glad you started it. 

I saw on another post you have had experience with PSA DSD.  I have a DSD Jr. and am at a crossroads between upgrading to a network DAC or buying a dedicated streamer with a DAC to follow in the future.

What are your thoughts on how the DSD Jr. (bridge II) compares to the M3?  Would the M3 be a significant upgrade? Did you test the M3 using ethernet or did you use a separate streamer.

My main goal is to increase the soundstage in all directions and increase emotional connection.  I get a nice image, but mostly between the speakers.

Thanks. 
@verdantaudio, thanks for the info. Great stuff.

Yesterday I updated my system page and today I added this:

Speakers are 6 feet apart center-to-center and the back of the speakers are 4 feet from the front wall and about 2.5 feet from the side walls. Listening position is 6 feet back and speakers are on GAIA I's and slightly toed in to point over my shoulders. GIK bass traps are on the walls, corners and ceiling, which resulted in a big improvement in soundstage.

What I'm really missing is depth and space around instruments and depth of the soundstage.  Maybe in my price range the space between instruments and instrument height is a big ask?  I will admit that much of the music I listen to is not audiophile quality but a good amount is.
Have you gone closer to the sidewalls? It depends on the speaker if that reflection helps or hurts and those are way out into the room. Does the bass get to boomy if you move them back a but? For me, optimal is wider than 6'.  
Not much room to side because they are on the edge of the rug. It doesn't get boomy at all. Moved chair back a foot and had my first real listening session since getting the XA25 and definitely got improvement. Next house will have more room for the speakers to breathe. 
@verdantaudio, Thanks for the PSA DSD review.  Since I have the Jr. I can assume it's about 85% of the Sr., which is still behind the M3 and others.  Although I have been happy with the detail, depth and separation are what I feel is missing.   This information definitely helps me move forward.