Changing from my pl600 (silver, DD) but I have shaky hands


I do realize my Pioneer pl600 is the weak in my audio chain. I currently use an ortofon 2m bronze. Considering an upgrade to a Hana mL cartridge. I fear that much more cartridge than that would outstrip my turntable’s ability, at least to be worth the additional cost.

Regarding my hands, I am 49 and have essential tremors (different than Parkinsons). For me to continue with vinyl, I fear that an automatic turntable is what I need

Regarding my other electronics, I have a gold note ds10+ and a ph10. preamp and 211s amp is new audio frontiers. Speakers are the wolf von Langa son, all on a Beaudioful rack

 

So I feel that the rest of my system is able to handle an analog/turntable upgrade. Given my physical limitations, is there something I am missing? For what it’s worth, I have a spare silver pl600 that is at least parts worthy

 

I don’t do all vinyl. I stream a lot. But I do enjoy listening to my albums

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wvl

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here's one seller refurb, different model (earlier?)

MGA, and Diatone are the names when the units were sold in Japan. 120/100v step down transformer may be included/needed (I use one, get a nice one under $100)

 

 

recent search in another thread turned up a few choices

new thorens td1601, has cue button for lift/down, you would first need to position it over the lead in area manually.

end of play auto lift (perhaps auto shutoff, you would need to clarify that).

hifiheaven has an open box for $3,100, free lifetime technical assistance. if, like cameras etc, open box means initial sales on receipt and makers full warranty, again, clarify that.

https://hifiheaven.net/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=7445&language=en&currency=USD

 

review

 

Where do you live? I'm in Plainfield, NJ, glad to help you set something up. Perhaps others here live near you and would offer to do that.

These Mitsubishi Linear Tracking Quartz Locked Direct Drive's are fully automatic

start, auto end/return/stop. lift/left/right/down by button control.

Nice, solid, I just set one up for my friend I met here.

Removable headshell is much easier for a friend to mount a cartridge, and have alternate cartridges ready to go.

you might need to keep looking, nice ones come up from time to time, here is one just to show the unit. there are other model numbers like it

 

In any case, adjustments might need to be made. The manuals are on-line, they are clear to follow, you would need a friend with steady hands and some patience.

 

 

I have a few other ideas for you, gotta go to Maine now, momma's 100th bday, lets see what others know about.

 

Sony made several variations of Front Loading Turntables (drawer pops out, place LP, close drawer, press start, auto return.

Also P mount, and advanced stylus shape cartridges are available.

Mine, different model number, has a Shibata I found.

Advantage: you can stack it (allows me to keep more equipment in that system).

Same as the Technics, surprisingly sounds terrific

 

I have one of these SL-J33 Technics Compact Linear Tracking Turntables. Quartz Lock Direct Drive. Programmable.

Hit start, it automatically scans the lp, finds the tracks (corresponding front lights light up).

arm returns to start position, waiting for you to simply press start for entire lp; or press front buttons of desired tracks, then press start, it will play only those tracks.

When finished, it automatically returns to start position.

It uses P mount Cartridges. I replaced mine with a linear contact stylus P mount. One side screw, pull it out, push replacement in, re-fasten side screw. No other adjustments needed, P mount cartridges all are the same weight

You may think it's a lightweight (it surely is and small easy to fit), however, it sounds terrific, in my system, and I loaned it to 3 audiophile friends (while their TT's were in for work), and all 3 were quite surprised by it's sound.

here's a nice one on ebay

 

Notice the ground: original cord had integral ground wire with the pin end to insert.

The ground wires are typically available on ebay, here's an example, just to see, it might not be the correct end.

I can find the correct one by matching mine if interested.

 

 

wvl OP

 

for an automatic TT, your existing PL600 TT gets some very favorable reviews, and having a spare for parts, unless something else appeals, it may be best to simply keep it and go for a new cartridge, perhaps MC, perhaps add a SUT if needed to use your existing MM Phono.

9/10 by pdemara

INTRODUCTION...

Feb 2013,

In my humble opinion this turntable is a total sleeper...

I think part of the confusion about his unit is that there other low cost Pioneer PL-600 models from other years and hence people get confused. This unit is truly awesome.

It's heavy (25 lbs) has super specs and very quiet operation along with a great list of features. And of course what matters most, it sounds great...

FULL SUSPENSION...

It's actually a full suspension turntable and uses stiff springs with damping foam to minimize resonance...
Seems to like my Sure 97xE cartridge as well as a Grado Gold... The tone arm uses a photo coupler to sense arm location which means no interaction during playback. The unit also has auto start when moving the tone arm and an electronic braking system when you manually move the tone arm away from the record... The automatic motor drive disconnects from the tone arm when playing a record and so there's no playback interaction with the automatic portion of the design.

THE SOUND...

I guess what impressed me the most is how quiet this table is... Specs say -78 dbm for noise, which is excellent but as we know, specs can be deceiving.

From my listening tests I can confirm this table is very quiets. It's also excellent at vibration control. Having my sub right next the the turntable causes no feedback issues... As well, no skippy skippy when I walk across my hardwood floor... Something I can't do with my Oracle Delphi...

FIT AND FINISH...

One of the things that caught my eye about this turntable is that it's champagne gold coloured and made from solid metal...No plastic... Pretty much all my other gear is also champagne coloured so this unit looks right at home with my champagne Sony ES gear.

The other great feature is the main buttons seem to be solid and feel like metal. They are also located outside the dust cover which means you can control the turntable without lifting the lid...

ONE ISSUE...

The only issue I had with the turntable was it seemed to have a speed stability problem... Every so often the unit would go out of quartz lock... I cured this problem by realizing all the LED lights in my house are quite noisy so I added and EMI/RFI filter power bar...

Problem solved... Perfect speed control now... LOL, they didn't have switching power supplies back in the late 70's so they wouldn't have ever noticed the issue...

IN SUMMARY...

If you can find one in good condition at a reasonable price (~$200) I would recommend an audition... I know purists think you can only achieve sonic accuracy with a full manual turntable. In my humble opinion, the Pioneer PL-600 turntable breaks that rule.

Another thread, I’ve been finding and posting many interesting TT’s, some are Automatics.

In any case, some of you might enjoy my finds

 

 

Mitsubishi Fully Automatic Linear Tracking, very nice condition

needs provided belts installed, perhaps you have someone who could do that, and, mentioned previously, arm adjustments probably needed, instructions are clear, but steady hands needed for that also.