Can tube amps give true high end bass?


I got the giant Silverline Grande La Folia speakers. They are really good and true high end in my opinion. They are efficient ca 93Db but got for bass 4 x 9,5ยด dynaudio woofers in each cabinet. I have tried 2 tube amps with them: Antique Sound Labs monos 2x60w and a protype VERY good 2x40W with El34 tubes (more about that amp in a later tread). And I have tried 2 transistor amps: An Ayre V1xe and Krell 450mcx monos. All givin very good sound in the mids and heigths BUT very different in bass. In my opinion the best bass was from the tube amps. Powerful deep bass!!

My dealer clames that such big speakers need a lot of power to control the 8 woofers: You must have several 100W i.e. tranistor or BIG tube amps like big VTL. With the "small" tube amps, that you have tried, the woofers get out of control and "pumping" air in an incorrect way. This movement in the woofers gives sound on it own that you only THINK is good bass!

Beeing an audiophile for 30 years I think I can determine when I hear good bass. But I am puzzled! -How can a 40W tube amp give better bass that Krell 450 monos?
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"How can a 40wt tube amp give better bass than Krell 450 mono's"

Perhaps its how you define 'bass', perhaps its a personal preference for a 'fuller' sound as opposed to a 'tighter' sound. Perhaps its just plain electrical synergy with your speakers.

I have noticed over the years that in gereral there seems to a correllation between equipment which produces 'tight bass' and produced thinner, more ascerbic mids and highs, which can be described as airy or bright depending on you preferences for one or the other. I've always suspected, apart from plain old synergy, it was due to the way that rise and decay times were treated in the amp - that is the methodology used to get tight bass was as much due to a shortening of the decay time of a signal as anything else and the warmth of tubes was due to a less sharp rise time.

I'm still looking for a tube or ss amp which has the best of both designs, that has warm, full, tight low frequencies with natural mids and highs allowing for great detail with no thinning or brightness. I used to feel like Diogenes til one day the wind blew out the lamp. :-)