Best turntable for the buck


I now amazingly find that my analog system has fallen behind my digital system in  SQ and I want to investigate how to improve it. 
Currently I have a heavily modified Rega RP3 turntable, with two power supplies, a new platter, sub-platter and other internal enhancements. My cartridge is the Clearaudio Virtuoso.
Not that it’s bad, but I want to look for  something that will significantly improve the sound of my current setup. 
Will about a 4K investment do that?

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OP,

 

I can definitely recommend VPI turntables. I owned one for over twenty years… great value and performance.

OP,

Yes, the impact of a great phono stage is incredible. I remember purchasing a $200 “A Recommended Component” Phonostage from Stereophile nearly 40 years ago. It sounded just terrible, I mean really bad. That started my upgrading that only slowed when I bought an Audio Research PH2… but upgraded as fast as I could afford it. The impact only slowed when I bought an $8K (I think) Audio Research PH8… but I continued upgrading and getting benefited to my current ARC REF 3. Really important!

How many albums do you own? A $4K investment in digital might be more cost effective. It is the future anyway. 
 

I have equally satisfying, same sounding digital and analog ends… both worth about $45K. If I only had a few hundred albums I would ditch the analog end and just upgrade digital. 

Sounds like you want in to the vinyl arena. I used to own a Rega… your criticism is the same as I would have made… I would have said too much noise resulting in decreased transparent soundstage. I have not been a fan of Rega since I owned one… the higher level ones are supposed to be better.

 

You might think about a used Linn LP12  or I think you could get a new Majik without cartridge for about the price you are looking at. I recommend getting one from a dealer… like I would most turntables.

I own a new LP12. Incredible transparency. One of the amazing things about Linn, any Linn TT, is you can upgrade them all the way up to the current top of the line by small steps. They have been Top performers… continuing to advance for many decades while many of their predecessors have fallen behind. 
 

Anyway, I thing the Majik really fits the bill for you.

@bkeske

”And I don’t care what anyone says, for me, vinyl is simply magical, and will always be better than my digital source.”

I have used vinyl for over 50 years and built ever better vinyl rigs to get the very best out of it. Until my digital rig bested it. My rig is shown under my UserID. Paradigms shift.

OP,
“the preamp reveals the flaws in bad records as much as it enhances the quality in good sounding records.‘

“The other issue I’m having (not really a problem but a concern) is the difference in texture between the records and digital sources.”

Both of these are valid and completely fixable problems. How sensitive your system is to bad recordings is a function of how far over to the scrape details / lean side of things your system is… quality of turntable, the “kind of sound” your cartridge has, phono stage, preamp and amp. The Sutherland 20/20 is not really on the cool side, although it is very detailed. So, I would first take a look at the cartridge. Is it described as really detailed? Maybe look for one that is described as musical / natural. Of course, upgrading your table will help as well. Tubed phonostages and preamps can be more natural and warm and not highlight the details (they are still there) and make all but the worst recordings sound better.

i am just trying to say, this is a completely known thing and can be changed. If not now, by your next choice. I struggled with this many times as I built my systems… I learned not to buy stuff that was billed as really highly detailed (at all costs).

As for the second one. Let me say this is the same, completely fixable. The character of my system through digital and analog is exactly the same. This is by design (a lot of years of learning). My Phonostage, and DAC are made by the same company and are at the same level. Also, I have a very good streamer (hence every natural and detailed) and I chose a natural sounding (Koetsu) cartridge. While you might be able to accomplish the sound matching with different companies for the Phono Stage and DAC…it would be challenging.

The other important quality of my system is that all components are ARC tubed equipment. The presentation is very natural… you get all the details… but the details are not over emphasized… it is the overemphasis of details that highlights many recordings in a bad light.

Let me give an example from my own history. I had a great mostly solid state system. When I would put on a classical recording and there was no sound yet (the symphony had not yet started playing)… I would instantly hear the venue… the little sounds reflecting off of the walls and ceilings and the noise floor of my gear. When I do that with my current system I hear mostly silence. Out of nothing comes the music when they start. This identifies what I am calling detail overemphasis. When I go to the symphony… the venue does not slap me in the face… it is there, I can hear it… like my current system.

 

Many people evaluate a systems performance by how obvious little detailed are (I used to) and not on how realistic proportional the sounds are.  You end up with less musical, picky systems.  You end up listening to the system instead of the music. 

 

Give this some thought. You have to relate it to your own experiences to grok it in fullness.