Best AV receiver to use as an AV pre amp


I want to get another AV receiver, but I want one that has a really good pre section in it so I can also use it well for 2 channel music. I have a Bryston 5B ST that I use for the front 3 channels(and for 2 channel music), but I want to use the internal amps in the receiver for the surround channels only (hence why I can't use *just* a preamp).
I am using my Denon AVR 2808 as the pre now with the Bryston and it is OK, but I feel is really holding it back.
Any suggestions on what would be a go AV receiver that has a great preamp section in it ?
dallyd31

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Thanks folks. Space and budget contraints(mostly space) dictate that I really don't have the option of running a separate 2 channel system..I need to use a system that will work for HT and 2 channel. I listen to music a home theatre in the same room and there just isn't enough space to have two setups. I have upgraded my components to high quality peices (using a Bryston amp for the front left, right and center instead of using the receivers internal amps as an example)to try and maximize the sound quality for all purposes. Just wondering if there is a better option than the Denon 2808ci that I am currently using...that is reasonably prices.
Thanks all. But, the point of this thread was to try ands get some ideas on what people thought was a better AV receiver than my current Denon to use in my situation described above....or will they all sound about the same ans stick with the Denon.
The NAD was mentioned...as was the Marantz in passing. Are these truly better options than my Denon 2808 ? Any other suggestion that folks have had success with that can offer any feedbacl. ?
Folks

I really appreciate all of the input..really I do. I value others opinions and take others advice as very valuable. But I need to re-iterate, once again, that for various reasons (several in fact) separate 2 channel gear is NOT an option, as mentioned a few times in previous posts. I don't mean to sound unappreciative, but I as mentioned twice...it just won't work for several reasons and is not an option at this point.
If you have some input on an upgrade to my HT receiver, please, let me know, I want to hear it. Heck, if you think that my Denon will provide me with about as good as it will get in my scenario, please let me know that as well. But I am looking for options with an HT receiver. I do appreciate and value the input.
Sorry to sound frustrated, but...
"I want to get another AV receiver, but I want one that has a really good pre section in it so I can also use it well for 2 channel music."

Yes..I "want to get another AV rceiver with a good pre section"....so it also works "well for 2 channel music" Sorry for the confusion, but that seems pretty straight up. "another AV receiver".
I also mentioned twice that a separate 2 channel setup/preamp etc is not an option.

Sorry folks, but I though I was pretty clear. Sorry if somehow I wasn't. I do appreciate all of the help and suggestions though.
Yes Erik, I realize this. I realize it is not another setup. This is getting silly. I want another HT receiver, I have made this glaringly clear. Sorry to sound annoyed, but I am not sure how many times I have to try and clarify this. I have no room, nor no desire to add another peice of gear. They way my setup and my room and my space (and my wife) are...not that I need to explain...all dictate I have to use one HT RECEIVER.
All I am asking for is some suggestions on an HT receiver that may be a little better for the 2 channel music portion of my listening experience than the one I currently have.
I really didn't think that asking for some suggestions on receivers would be this difficult.