Bassheads-DSP important????????Velodyne SMS??


Just wondering those that have experience with Velodyne or other DSP subs versus non.I have always been a fan of music subs in 2.1 and wa discussing with a friend that I liked multi driver,small coned subs (REL,Martin Logan,
Vandersteen,) because speed seemed to equal better more musical bass (not HT "Boom In The Room").But these mentioned subs and say REL spin-off MJ Subs do not have DSP.One can spend $600 for the Velodyne SMS (?) unit to room correct.Wonder if this means sense in a 2.1or 2.1/5.1 combo or just go for the best sound from non-DSP unit or just get the Velodyne model (or other manufacturer) that fits my price.Lastly a seller here said to me he got a new REL which had DSP correction but haven't seen model on EL web site.
Thanks
Chazz
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Chazz,

Musical subs are are about two things. Low Q (look for low group delay) and low distortion. Then it is only about power output - what do you need - decent LF power is very expensive.

The HT Shack subwoofer tests is a great resource. You will notice that low group delay tends to comes with a sealed box. The good ones tested are SVS PBultra sealed, JL F113 and teh Geneled 7073A. Genelec is expensive but has an impressive 5% THD at 20 HZ at 105 db SPL - given that in comparison to the JL, which has more than 20% distortion, one might conclude that the only audiophile music quality commercial sub they tested so far is the monster Genelec - at least of those they tested. The DIY TC Sounds LMS-5400 18" sealed 100L was the best oversall - I may be wrong but I think you are talking around $2000 for the driver alone and it is nolonger available to DIY'ers.

Note that low group delay seems to be important - my guess is that the REL subs despite their lousy distortion results are well liked because they have low group delay and a nice natural in room curve (rolls off at lower frequencies where room boost comes into play).

I think DSP is almost unavoidable for most rooms, unfortunately. Ideally you would like to have the perfect room with lots of acoustic treatment. I would advise to do the absolute maximum acoutic treatments you can BEFORE doing any DSP. DSP is never a good thing - so it should be used sparingly to tame extreme room modal peaks.

Your idea that small woofers are better than big woofers is not something that is supported by any test data.