Aurender integrated streamer/DACs

@deadhead1000 

+1 This is the way most folks look at it. But this does not answer the question. I own two Aurrender streamers only. But will be interested in hearing what people have chosen combo units.

@deadhead1000 

Excuse me. I was not trying to be critical. I agree with you and just wanted to support your comments. It is perfectly reasonable to suggest alternative ways of looking at the problem. i also that I would be interested in hearing folks comments about integrated as it is a path I have not seriously explored.

I think both the streamer and DAC are equally important.

Most folks have access to ok sounding streamers (MACs, PC, iPads) and the intellectual attraction to “it is just bits, it can’t make a difference” is so overwhelming that most folks basically have to hear the difference a high quality stream can make to believe it. This usually happens after they own a high quality DAC. I did. I was instantly converted and never considered going back.

So, to soften the financial blow and focus on a single research project, it may make sense to get a really high quality DAC first… as it will produce a big upgrade… but then the streamer will also.

@gsomin

First, is it new? Broken in? It will need at least a couple hundred hours on it before it will perform correctly… 300 or 400 is better.

Tell us more about the rest of your system. There is a place for photos and to ID your system. That would really help us. Click on the little triangle next to discussion Forum to virtual system.

Aurender streamers are world class… although their DACs are not known to be quite as leading edge. The A200 i should blow away the Blue Sound.

Is it possible you are taking treble and in your face presence for higher quality? Higher quality sound brings out the natural midrange and heft of voices and many instruments… it is more relaxed and musical. The presentation is deeper, soundstage wider. Just a thought.

@gsomin

I am sure no one said the Aurender DAC is bad. I’ve not heard that. But I have also not heard tremendous praise for it. So, I am sure it is a good DAC. Most of us that are dedicated to high end sound buy separates… Streamer and DAC. Typically separates at the same level will sound a bit better. Also, you get greater flexibility with separates. You can choose those that sound more to your liking. Also, much easier to upgrade.

Typically when a component breaks in, the sound will mellow, bass become more accurate and the soundstage will open up.

I noticed you mentioned cymbals. When the soundstage opens, it is likely the individual instruments will become more obvious. But your choice of words continues to make me think you are missing overly trebly / harsh high frequency.
 

When I was upgrading in the first couple decades of pursuing the high end, I noticed the “treble” was decreasing with system upgrades. it started to worry me. So I went on a crusade to listen to real treble… I listened to real cymbals, piano, etc. to my surprise, what was disappearing was the sssssh… it was high frequency hash and distortion… leaving the unadulterated sound of brass.

When the unit is broken in… listen to some big bells, and cymbals. Does the Aurender sound more like brass? Maybe it sounds more natural. That is good.

Btw, I owned Olympic 3’s for many years. Great, natural sounding speakers.

Hope I said something helpful here.

@soix & @lalitk 

Good discussion. I think we are all saying about the same thing.in general, separates are better. It is likely the OP could benefit from a sea parade… but I don’t think any of us could categorically be sure.

OP, definitely allow it to break in. The nuances we are talking about are likely pretty small. Spend one serious time with it… if it doesn’t blow away the Bluesound… then go for the N200 with a good quality DAC and you will never look back. I am sure we can help coach you on the DAC… if it comes to that… but I doubt it will.