Auditioned Magico A3 - VERY DARK...


So today after waiting for months to try and listen to the Magico A3, I went to Scott Walker audio at Anaheim and listened to the Magico A3, connected to some VAC Tube amp, being fed from a Sony audio streamer, here are my impressions:

- They look fantastic, I wish they made them in silver too, but they are just great in brush black aluminum
- They're quite small and could fit everywhere
- Fit and finish is impecable
- The bass they generated was nothing but amazing for such a small cabinet, you could hear the drums, the down beats and incredible depth of bass at an amazing level
- Imaging was INSANE, you could literally place everyone and everything...
- Sound was VERY VERY DARK!!! This was a bit of a surprise, the top end lacked for my taste to a quite a degree
- I felt like the combo of the Tube amp and Magico lacked resolution, while bass and mid was great, the top end absolutely lacked resolution
- The sound was extremely laid back, again dark
- It does NEED POWER, like he had to crank the volume up, to get good sound out of this, so be aware of that

Overall, I "personally" did NOT like the sound, it lacked details and resolution at the top end, while it was great at the bottom end.  Now, the rep and I think this is mostly due to Tube amp, and connecting it to a solid state amp would bring back resolution, but we simply didn't have time to do that today.  I look forward to listen to these at another time with some decent solid-state amp, but as-is, I was NOT as impressed as I expected and wouldn't have purchased one and I strongly believe Tube and Magico A3 do NOT go well together! 

Anyone else with similar impressions?! Curious to know what others may think, or maybe there was something else in play?

Thoughts?
alexb76

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There are many deaf or deluded audiophiles who listen to sound and not music.

Yes, so many deaf or deluded... not to mention ill-advised that unfortunately insist on advising.
BTW, my wife also has " very critical hearing" that is why she never listens to me ;)

The A3 sounded fantastic on an Ayre AX-5 Twenty.  
The dealer told me that if I order an A3 today, I would get it in Dec. Magico has sold over 750 pairs of A3s in the first 6 months of its introduction, twice as many as they predicted to sell in a full year. 

 

Haters will be haters 😉
Dark/bright, fat/lean, colored/dry, etc…   So many conflicting reports, some still don’t get it, these are the most transparent transducers around. What you hear is what’s playing through them, the good and/or the bad. Audiophiles are so used to speakers coloration that once it is gone they don’t quite know what to make of it.
The A3 is a remarkable achievement in its price point, it requires some serious “unawareness” not to acknowledge that.      



Fleschler,
Most of the speakers you like are grossly colored. Of course, we heard them all and seen some of their measurements. They are not very good, objectively, and in my case, subjectively.
Perhaps you and your friends have been at it too long and can no longer discern between natural sound and just “sound” as you call it.
FWIW, many of RR titles were mastered on Magico loudspeakers (by Paul Stubblebine and Prof Keith Johnson). Rick Rubin also uses them for his work, not to mention many manufacturers that relay on Magico to hear what they are doing.
Harbeth claim to fame is its “pleasant” coloration; Alan Shaw even talks about it. You can look at JA measurements of any Harbeth and just cringe; I can’t imagine any mastering engineer will use these to judge his work.


@fleschler The number one audio system at shows for the past three years has been his Ultra 11s as written up in Absolute Sound, Stereophile, Enjoy the Music, Positive Feedback and others, not Magicos....


Sure, none of these outfits ever gave rave reviews to Magico, never…
Not even these from the last 2 big shows; Munich and Axpona:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/the-2018-munich-high-end-show-loudspeakers-under-20k/
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/munich-high-end-show-2018-electronics-15k-and-up/
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/munich-high-end-jv-on-loudspeakers-20k-and-up/
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/the-2018-munich-high-end-show/
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/AXPONA_2018/Weaver/page1.htm
https://positive-feedback.com/show-reports/axpona-2018-end-of-the-road-snow-on-the-horizon/
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2018/05/05/axpona-2018-the-magico-a3-debut/
https://www.stereophile.com/content/sunday-morning-axpona-john
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2016/05/09/axpona2016-magico-s5-rolling-thunder-cat-and-tape-disrupt-...
https://audio-head.com/scott-walker-audio-magico-and-synergistic-research-axpona-2018/
https://positive-feedback.com/show-reports/day-2-axpona-2018/

And that was only from the first 2 pages of Google search…
Any other stories to tell us? Are you really interested in how the A3 sound? You already told us how you feel about the brand and those who like it, and you had no problem twisting the facts doing so. I don’t expect a fair assessment from you on anything regarding Magico, you don’t have to like it, but insulting those who do, on a Magico thread is weak (no wonder you needed help from your friends, wife, some mastering guys from the 50’s, etc). Hope you have a good rest of your Sunday, listening to whatever it is you fancy. I know I will ;)






Nice, how did you get these measurements?

Both Magico and Ravel measurements are exemplary. The Persona is a trainwreck. I am surprise that Paradigm, which typically produce solid engineered products will build such a turd.