Are the Mods handling these forums as well as they could be? How can we help them?


Let me begin by congratulating the mods on the job they are doing here, as one who has had experience doing the very same job on forums it is a usually a thankless unpaid task that garners no friends in any quarter!

That being said I am of the belief that just deleting posts that are deemed inappropriate is not the best way to handle the rabble rousers who are left free to perform said actions again and again and again.
This is a select few who are well known to the majority but can and do spoil many a decent thread and have indeed caused a number of once regular contributers to go "dark".
My proposal would be for the mods to tally up infractions for inappropriate posts and after a certain points limit is hit then an automatic ban should occur, the severity of which would be decided by the mods based on the manner of the infractions. I have found that if posters know there is a system in place that could limit their freedom to post they usually think twice about said posts and if not , well soon enough they become irrelevant anyway.

I am also accustomed to the mods being well known to other members, not faceless entities although this is not the end of the world just a little odd from my previous background.

What do the Audiogon membership think on this matter?

I sincerely hope the mods do not remove this thread as it is not intended as direct criticism , rather as a tool to help them possibly deal with the increasing problem in a way that the membership would be most comfortable with.
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Showing 13 responses by uberwaltz

Rules already exist for this site, unfortunately a select few continue to ignore them.
It has NOTHING to do with being butt hurt, at least not from my perspective.
It is just pretty annoying to keep seeing posts removed which at times makes the subsequent replies confusing and meaningless.
Just my opinion....
@ebm 

Not really sure what you are trying to say here, rules will never happen??
We live in a world governed by rules for better or worse, without them you descend into anarchy.

Now if you meant rules will never happen on here, well they are not "my" rules at all.
I am only suggesting a possible update to the rules that already exist here.
Nothing more, nothing less.
And .....sooner or later change is inevitable just like time. To think no changes may ever occur here on these forums is a little outdated.
@Elizabeth 
"Removal wars"
I like it, new internet virtual reality series......
@jmcgrogan2
No I do not condone censorship and I am not conflicted...I think..lol.
Moderation is what I am referring to, maybe more layers but not censorship at all.
I am trying to get across the principle that self censorship or moderation is the key element here. In other words it really needs to start with poster, not rely on a mod to clean up their act which in certain cases is too late as we cannot expect them to be watching 24/7 and reacting to every post.
Of course there is always the viewpoint that ANY moderation is censorship
@geoffkait 
And I would prefer to see that fixed where it starts, having the poster just not do it at all! Rather than waiting for mods to remove which is then too late for some who will have gone off on a tangent already!
And that may be achieved by member timeout possibility...or it might make zero difference at all

Who knows...
As they say...common sense is the least common of all senses
Oops my bad
Somebody did mention censorship but it is not something I was reaching for or condone
@geoffkait 
Exactly, well put.
NOBODY ,certainly not myself ever mentioned censorship as part of this deal.
But maybe a further layer of moderation would not go amiss.

@stereo5 
Do you not think it would be better to not HAVE to skip over the derogatory posts? Would it not be better to just get to the meat without so much extraneous fat and gristle?

Again, just my thoughts....
@georgehifi 
Quite an admirable sentiment, however as they remain faceless we do not know whether any actually are?

@jmcgrogan2 
I also believe they are doing a fine job...up to the point I have brought up of course.
As to an OP self moderating....nice thought but sure it would go too far the other way as most OP are severely biased towards their own thread...lol. Now as far as I am aware the OP can delete their own thread at any time, all posts included.

I still think that heading off the silly and irrelevant posts at the pass would be the better way...but of course...I am biased........
Let me try another way to explain my view.
What defines civilised society?
Following rules and regulations.
You may not agree with them but you follow them and are fully aware there could be potential fallout if you do not eventually.
Why should an online forum be considered any different?
We can all make our points and views known without succumbing to name calling and open hostility.
Maybe I am being naive but I guess that’s a result of my mother’s upbringing and one which I am sincerely proud of.
If you do not see it this way or agree I completely understand, modern times have modern morals which possibly just go against my grain.
If the mods see fit to close this thread so be it.
@cleeds 
Yes of course we can report posts but surely it would be better if there were far fewer posts to report?
That is my point,I know we all can't play nicely in the same sandbox at times but no call for outright hostility.

@stereo5 
Yes if that is what it takes .......
Of course I cannot know that for sure , maybe a mod will actually chime in and explain.
But from what I have seen so far, certain members would be LONG gone, and they are not, so at this stage it is my assumption only, nothing more, nothing less.