Are Klipsch or Usher and Upgrade for Me?


I've been rolling with a 15 year-old HT speaker system consisting of Infinity speakers: CC-3 center, Overture 2 L/R, and RS-3 bookshelves for surrounds. At the moment I'm using an ACI Titan II sub in the HT setup, but it may move to the two-channel system.

I've been considering upgrading. I happen to live near a Crutchfield store (for now) and heard both the Klipsch Reference II series and the new Reference Premier series as well as a PSB setup.

I've also heard great things over the years about Usher Audio's speakers, but it looks like their floorstanders are more than what I'm willing to pay for my HT right now, and the bookshelves might not be up to performing L/R duty in a HT. The Be-616 DMD looks intriguing, though.

I am a tad concerned that the Klipsch will not be a huge upgrade over my Infinity system. The Klipsch setup I'm looking at would be the RC-64 II, RF-7, and whatever the matching bookshelves are.

Any thoughts on whether the Klipsch will be a substantial upgrade over what I have now, and how it would compare to an Usher setup at the same price point? What alternatives should I consider for crystal clear dialog, good off-axis response, neutral and accurate tonality, and capable of easily handling the dynamic range necessary for HT duty?

It has been quite a while since I last posted; I hope you are all doing well and enjoying the hobby!

Best,
HC
aggielaw

Showing 4 responses by avgoround

Everything is going to be setup/system dependent. Off axis response? - good luck with that, as the horn speakers are going to be beamy throughout the midrange/treble. If you want good side to side dispresion, you need apply elsewhere.
That said, the Klipsh's work very well for many HT applications, but you must sit within their "dispersion window", is key.(which is workable for several seats, suprisingly) Aiming them properly is also part of the deal, and the Klipshies do their best in aiding in acoustics, by reducing reflections horizontally and vertically -thus allowing more direct sound to be heard vs reflected (later of which smears imaging, and fuzzies up the joint! -not good). This is a big PLUS with rooms, like most, that have minimal acoustical treatments spread around, or less than ideal setups.
K horns are also nice and dynamic and punchy, have high dynamic efficiency, require little power to make em sound stout, have very good detail in mid/treble, and are highly intelligible for dialog. I like them for HT setups in most rooms on a budget, as they just fit in and work so well in so many aspects critical to HT applications! ...yep, I do.
Another key - you NEED to run most of these speakers crossed over at 80hz to a powered sub, for maximum dynamic range and efficiency! Yes, you can get away with full range, for modest listening in most setups..just not balls to the wall, properly done ones, IME (ask THX Lucas ..Stick with active subs for demanding lower register)
I also find the best sound for music/HT duties with em is with a tube amplifier somewhere in the chain, however...smooths out the treble, which is invariably a bit bright and forward on these horns, however. Of course, a good EQ can balance with the right gear, too. This works fine for HT, yes. (last word here, is I never liked any of the Klipsh's sold through Best Buy over last 10 years!)
As for your other speakers you considered?...never heard em.
If I could give just only piece of real honest actual sound advice at all, I would probably tend to go with whatever the exact opposite suggested recommendations are by Zd542!!
Can't stress this point emphatically enough, actually. .this from years of careful research and calculated trial and error results, no less. Oh yeah..horns rule!(lol! .no actually you do need try anything first, course) Just messin w yaz! Lol Anyway, maybe that helps . . it does for me
"If you're not sure about horns and you can't afford to take a loss, its worth mentioning that very few audiophiles actually use them. Zd542 (LOL!- can't afford to take a lose!! ..BIG BUCK EXPENDITURE HERE!!!.. how does one survive the resell process, I ask!?!! DOH!)

"My only caution would be to make sure before you buy a pair so you don't loose money on a mistake." Zd524 (we wouldn't want that to happen..might drive em right out of the hobby al together! -Stick with Lotto tickets, maybe??)

..not a big deal folks!. You try a pair of $100 used Klipshies, and compare to your fav budget (or better) monitor at the house! then you can know something you didn't already. HEY, IT'S A HOBBY FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD! THROW CAUTION TO THE WIND, I SAY! lol.
Lol! Zd542, .I dont hate anyone. I poke fun in jest at you, Zd542! Its fun and, besides, you deserve your torment based on past postings, even to present! And still, I even agreed with u that this guy should audition first to see if its for him, silly!
Besides, its fun to disagree n be controversial, don't u think? ...otherwise no one is hardly posting responses in the HT section any more! No really. Its getting sparse. Don't u agree? (Everyone posts on the amp\preamp section of gon, it appears -Like 2xs more than next closest section -loudspeakers?- and 5xs as many threads than HT sec!!) Cause apparently amps are far more important to sound quality than even the loud speakers themselves!.. which isn't true. ..see the people here are silly! I just proved it.