Add a subwoofer to Von Schweikert 4Srs?


I'm currently using VS 4Srs after upgrading from 4 Jrs late last year. They are (finally) getting broken in and really singing. No complaints except I'm longing for a little more low end. I'll admit it...I'm a bassaholic but I don't like that home-theatre-low-rumble without a cause sound. Never owned a sub. Any recommendations (besides seeing a therapist)? The best woofer I have heard to date and would proud to have in my system was a Talon I herad at last October's RMAF. My appreciation in advance.
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According to:

http://www.vonschweikert.com/FreqGraph_vr4sr.jpg

This speaker is flat to 20 hz. That is one of the best response curves I've seen!! So, focus on break-in and room placement.

Give that several months, then verify with other vrSr owners, then think about sub. I think you have an awesome speaker for bass even if you are a bass-head!!!!!!!

(Some dealers are good at room placement and for 100/hr or 60/hr depending on where you live might be able to help after breakin is over. Some of those are Rives certified with involves various training things - they may not be better, but it is at least a standard for training. You might check with the place, assuming brick and mortar, where you got them from.)
If you want more bass from your 4sr take some of the Dacron out of the bass cabinet. Your owners manual has instructions on this. The bass is always adjustable. For those who want less bass you put more Dacron into the bass cabinet. Do not put anything into the port only the cabinet.
I feel that adding Subs to full range speakers improve even the best speakers. The reason I believe it helps is because good subs have room correction software that corrects room irregularities. They are also designed to work with their own build in amp. By being in a separate enclosure from the main speakers, room placement can also help to enable maximum output without distortion. The best speaker placementfor the low frequencies maynot be the optimumfor the highs. The more full range your speakers are the better they mate to subs. The fuller the base the better the midrange sounds. Check out these posts:
Is two Subs better than One & Sub. with full range speakers ?
I do not like adding complete electronic room correction unless I was only using digital signals. Placing more electronics in the path to my main speakers concerns me.
I use two Velodyne DD 15's with my Wilson 6. After seeing how much improvement the subs made to the mid and high frequencies, I decided to add super tweeters to my system. It also helped but not as much as the subwoofers. But placing them behind the speaker plane and closer to the midline increased the sound stage and individuality of each instrument.
Richard
More often than not the best placement for your mains is not great for bass. In my room full range speakers just don't deliver the bass I crave in my listening position. I have an older pair of VS VR4 MKII and now a pair of Aerial 9's and neither one can deliver satisfying bass in the optimal location for imaging and soundstage. Now if I were to move them for the best bass response the bass improves greatly but everything else suffers. I know that both of these speakers can deliver great bass in the right room, unfortunately I don't have that room and neither do you.

The best sub I have ever owned is the JL Audio Fathom F113. If you get a pair of these or even a pair of the F112 you will be set, probably forever. The first sub I have ever owned that can accurately convey the most subtle bass notes and I could actually describe as articulate. I have had the velodynes, Revel's, M&K, SVS, Von Schweikert and the list goes on in subwoofers but the JL Audio sub just kills for music.

Good luck.

Mike
it could be your room or speaker location. check out the speaker location calculations from cardas and others. i have used rel subwoofers with very good results with totem speakers.