Despite the high sensitivity, big Klipsch speakers NEED high power if you want to control the woofer's voice coil.
Yes, you can play them loudly with a few watts, but you are not going to get the bass that a big amp will provide. Personally, I would like to see a plot of the speaker to see how loud the low frequencies are playing with that 102 dB with 1 watt at 1 KHz. Of course, we could just measure The Doctor's next time we jam. |
Sean, The Doctor is Audiogoner mechans (Dr. Steve Mechanic). He is one of my closest friends, audio or otherwise, and the proud owner of a pair of Klipsch La Scalas. Yes, he's an actual doctor, which is why I call him The Doctor. Into fast cars, good food, and wine. Does a good Don Vito Corleone impression as well... |
Was it loud enough, Tabl10s? |
Sean, some of my best audio moments were in times like you just described!!! |
Now, I've seen everything...
Eldartford is saying we listen to music, not sine or square waves??? Wow, I've told him this a few times, but today he's saying it. It's truly a momentous day on Audiogon! Hallelujah!!!
In a more serious vein, I reiterate my assertion that I would like to see a sweep of a speaker's output across the frequency spectrum. Further, since we're talking about measurements, a lot of manufacturers would have some 'splaining to do. Most notably, those who couple an 88 dB/2.83V woofer, with a 91 dB/2.83V tweeter, use a bunch of crossover components, then claim to have a 92 dB/W loudspeaker. |
Eldartford, I would also like to offer that when you have a technical problem, I will try to help.
Allow me to applaud you on your skill - walking and chewing gum, CONGRATULATIONS!!! But, can you rub your stomach in a circular motion at the same time?
Back to vanilla and chocolate, or music - I'm not much into classical music. Do you feel that I might want to apologize for not commenting on the violinist??? |
Finally, some semblance of humor!
Eldartford, Sean told you I listen to New Wave, not square waves. |
Eldartford, my example is a simple one. I know of more than one manufacturer who does this, and the results are born out quickly when their speakers get reviewed by folks who not only listen, but also measure.
Although one can find examples of speakers which are most sensitive in a box (Lowthers, horns), for the common dynamic speaker, you cannot exceed the sensitivity of the most sensitive driver.
While measurements are certainly important, in my opinion, if the end result, MUSIC, isn't right, what's the point??? I was just having a laugh at you finally mentioning the word "music" in a post, and how it eclipsed test tones.
And, see if you can lighten up a bit. Personally, I think you'll have a lot more fun and friends around here if you do. It's a humorous site if you let it be. |
Eldartford, all are welcome in audio. Technical or otherwise. Technical knowledge infers no superiority whatsoever in terms of listening or being able to critique a system.
While I can hold my own to an extent in some areas of the technical side of the house, my respect and admiration seems to flow towards those who focus on the music. Again, since music is the end result, and I have absolutely zero interest in listening to a square wave, it feels natural for me to become one heck of a lot more enthusiastic about getting together with someone who simply sits down and plays me whatever moves their soul. Others may feel more comfortable in having lunch and discussing the benefits and tradeoffs of short coil/long overhang and vice versa.
To each, his own. As I always say, that's why they make vanilla AND chocolate.
Though I do feel your comment "play the music card" definitely shows a bit of nose in the air - see my last comments in my previous post.
I could easily name a manufacturer and model for my example, but I don't need to muck rake. I was hoping that many here would be able to infer exactly who it was from my description - it's a well known and respected marque here on Audiogon, and I myself hold the company in the highest regard productwise... |
