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Rega RP8 or Technics SL1200G

I'm a bit reluctant to post this "either or question" because I know that everything in this hobby is subjective, but here goes.

I currently have a Rega RP3-24 with an Exact 2 and I want to upgrade to my final turntable. I have read all the reviews that are available on both tables and both received stellar reviews, although Fremer stated that his RP8 sample table ran a little fast. I like the simplicity of the RP8 ($3000), however, I also like the adjustability of the SL1200G ($4000) which eases the task of trying different cartridges, although I don't plan on swapping out cartridges very often. On the other hand, I am not adverse to using spacers to adjust VTA on the Rega so I can try  non Rega cartridges. 

So it really comes down to which table sounds better, which is built better, etc. I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has heard either of these tables. I won't have the opportunity to audition either one.

I listen to rock, jazz and some classical.

The rest of my system is:
Cayin A-88T MKII Integrated with Gold Lion KT88's or Svetlana Winged C EL34  
PS Audio GCPH w/Underwood Mod (planning to upgrade to Parasound JC3+)
Harbeth SHL5 Plus 40th Anniversary
Rega Apollo-R
Accuphase T101
Cables: Morrow PH4 to phone preamp 

Thanks in advance.
Eric

       
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atmasphere
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I found the sound of the Technics rather clanky which doesn’t work for me. Is it the arm? I’m no material scientist, couldn’t tell you. Maybe the G is better in this regard.
@viridian The SL-1200G is a ground-up new design, and should only be compared to older SL-1200s by looks only. In terms of sound it is considerably more neutral- it has better vibration damping, tighter speed regulation and improved materials in the tone arm.

Put another way, I'm not certain I'd recommend the older SL-1200s over a Rega, but with the new one its a no-brainer.
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OK...

Rega recognizes that coupling between the base of the arm and the platter bearing is important. Given that, they seem to be trying to save weight in the assembly, which would  seem to fly in the face of the rigidity aspect. IOW the Technics is **more** rigid in this regard (employing a plinth and a case subchassis) and also more dead (employing 4 different damping schemes in the plinth/base assembly).

A powerful drive is an important aspect of any turntable. In this regard you can see that all the well-regarded vintage machines (SP-10, Lenco, Garrard 301, Empire 208) have powerful drive motors. This makes a difference when dealing with needle drops and bass tracks- the speed stability is greater; the improved speed stability is not audible as pitch but you can hear it in terms of image stability. Its not enough to have a massive platter. The Technics has a decent platter (which is also damped) and a much more powerful drive then the PR-8.

The tone arm of course can't be overlooked. The Technics arm, while looking the part of its earlier version, has improved bearings and arm materials, as well as the benefit of improved machining. You can adjust the VTA on the fly. Its hard to tell about the RP-8, but IIRC its does not have a VTA adjustment. For this reason your cartridge selection is limited.

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jacko13
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Two items to consider.  Is the RP8 die for an update?  The difference between the RP6 and P6 is substantial.  Also something to think about is your listening space and isolation.  The SL1200G won’t need the same level of care and placement as the Rega.  Two small points in an otherwise difficult decision.  My feeling is that the 1200G is superior technology over the Rega.  
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