clearaudio turntables vs vpi


I am getting to the point where it is time to upgrade. I currently have a VPI scout. Should I stay with VPI or move on to others such as clearaudio. The performance and ovation have garnered my interest. I have had some people tell me that they are very synergistic with Benz micro. I have a ref s and glider cartridges. I have had some tell me that I still have not really "heard"my catridges as of yet. Looking for your thoughts on a final table between 3000 and 7000 as this what I can afford
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Stringreen, I was at VPI's audio open house at Harry's home yesterday as host to a few audio societies. They have 4 listening rooms set up with different systems. I heard the Avenger both with and without the magnetic drive system. Both sounded excellent. The magnetic seemed to have more of a natural ease and flow.
Stringreen, I have been toying with the idea of replacing my SSM with rim drive, Classic platter, and 3D tonearm too. The Avenger is a drop dead gorgeous table. The only advantages to the Avenger I see are that a 12 inch tone arm can be used, and you can install up to 3 tonearms. The downsides to me were that I would have to give up the double motor rim drive, which I really like, the Classic platter with the special oil-pumping bearing Harry had custom made for me, which has improved performance, and that the tonearms do not have plinth area below to better protect the arm and cartridge from possible damage by a careless movement with my hand or arm. I've also done a few more tweaks to my table over the years which has further improved its performance.

I spoke to someone at the meeting I know who very recently traded in his SSM with rim drive and HW TNT platter for an Avenger with magnetic drive. He says he really likes it, but I personally didn't hear anything other than a slightly smoother sound and slightly better bass drive.

I really didn't notice an appreciable difference or improvement with the Avenger versus what I now have. Both are Class A tables. The only advantage I see with the Avenger is that if you want an additional arm or two, maybe one with a dedicated mono cartridge, that it's more convenient than having to swap tone arms.

I found listening to the Avenger, while excellent and beautiful to look at, made me appreciate the performance and sound of my upgraded and tweaked SSM even more. I think the somewhat understated styling of the SSM makes it very attractive in a more utilitarian way. I'm still toying with the idea of going to an Avenger, but have less of an urge than before hearing it. If I were to get it, it would be with the magnetic drive, as the version without it I really didn't hear much of any improvement.

Hope this helps.
Tony, I heard the Prime table as well. Excellent table, tremendous performance and features (VTA tower, Classic platter, 3D tone arm), great sound, amazing value for the money.
I agree Stringreen. I would expect an improvement with the magnetic drive on my SSM, but wonder about a huge difference. I read on a post on the VPI site from HW himself that the mag drive will cost closer to around $2,000, not the $6,000 cost which had been erroneously reported earlier. For that amount I may try it when it comes out for the SSM, but I wouldn't go for $6,000.