Attention Messenger Preamp Owners...

I made a mistake on the version number. This is the Mk III

Good for Elliot, he works hard on making the Messenger right. I'm happy for you.

My Messenger is a mk 1 I believe. Was there a Mk 2 then. Mine sounds so good as is. I would also encourage... to take a listen to this preamp.

Hi Fjn04,

The MkII came out a few years ago. You can upgrade your MkI to the MkIII for a very reasonable price. You should contact Elliot.

Did you find the gain to increase as well? Or are you at the same position on the volume control?

I am just guessing here, I did speak with Elliot a few weeks ago though. There is an updated volume control,which my 1 year old unit does not have. Elliot said the new one has fewer steps. He did not mention an increase in gain in the upgraded mk 3. In my system, I definitely have plenty of gain though. With my Jade and Messenger w/ phono, 9-10 O'clock is quite loud. I have never even ventured up to the 11 O' clock range. I am wondering now if the Messenger's w/ the tubed PS are in fact the Mk.1. Then, I would guess all Messenger's w/ SS PS would be Mk. 2's. I welcome any clarification here though. BTW, Elliot is a class act, and always a pleasure to speak with.

Gladstone,

I didn't have Elliot change the volume control to the new version because I new for each input where to set it. However the upgraded Messenger has more gain(about 1 step) so I have had to adjust downward on all sources.

Fjn04,

Actually the idea of the new volume control was to lower the gain so that when you set it to 1 it wouldn't be so loud.

With the old Messenger I set Cd's at 5 max and Lp's at 11 max. Now I have moved down a step.

Actually the power supply has nothing to do with the upgrades to the messenger. All upgrades are to the actual preamp. The tube power supply was always an option and is really for people who are tweakers(not me).

I kid you not when I say that the new Messenger is like a whole new preamp in terms of sonics. It takes everything the old one did and increases those qualities exponentially.

I wouldn't consider the tubed power supply for tweakers only. You might be surprised by its sound.

Gladstone,

Sorry I should have been clearer. I didn't mean that it didn't improve the sound. I have never heard it I was just going off of what Elliot told me. He did say it improved the sound but he also felt it was more for guys that liked to tweak the tubes(which isn't me). That's all I meant so I hope I clarified that for everyone who reads this.

Do you have the tube power supply?

Hi, yes, I do have it.

Nrostov,

Thanks very much for the information. I'll have to get in touch with Elliot. Do you happen to know how much the upgrade costs?

Mike

Hi Mike,

Here is the cost. The cost of the MkIII upgrade right now is $1800 plus shipping and the cost of the new volume control upgrade is $1500 plus shipping

I didn't get the volume control upgrade because I knew where I liked everything.

Justin