Wadia 861se with GNS vs Esoteric or Emm players

I don't think the 800 is the best player in the world and I am either not a dvd-a fan. I am a fan of music and I prefer music as natural as possible. And that means also the right proportions and a natural sound. And sacd can't do this, that is a fact. There is no person in the studio world who will dissagree.

Leonx, a lot of recordings studio's are using the Meitner Dacs.
Alsoo for SACD recordings,and they are very very good.

For Metralla. I know people who claims the same as you. I just quoted Sugdens words regarding SACD (the deaf thing). He gave up SACD very fast. I've heard SACD on the Sony 777 many times as well, and both the owner and I hate SACD. Another friend of mine who is really into digital and build his own stuff (he is quite a talent) told me, that he hated SACD too and claimed that this media is low technology even compared to red books. This statement I can not tell anything about, since I know very little about digital in general. However, we are some guys here in Copenhagen who actually have some pretty nice stuff, ex. we all play at beryllium and build most of our gear ourself and all of us think that SACD sucks. Stuff we are playing at is TAD, GOTO, WADIA, Krell Reference series, AN Kondo, EMT, SP10, Garrard, home made hyper triode amps and more. Hope this list gives you an idea about my words. thanks, Tadman

Tadman, thanks for the reply. Your list was interesting, and does provide perspective. Cheers to Copenhagen - one of my favourite cities.

I have heard others claim that SACD is flawed, and I don't just mean technically. The fellow who modified my Sony XA777ES over four years ago (Ric Schutlz - EVS) did not much like the rising ultrasonic noise pattern from a purist point of view, but can you hear it?

I'd like it if the superiority of SACD over Redbook was a fact - so much more 16/44.1 material available and a lot cheaper.

I've just never had that demonstrated to me.

Regards,

A friend of mine had a small concert room with a Steynway. It didn't matter where I was in the room. A voice of a woman or an instrument was always focused and small.This had become a very important part for me to judge. When you listen to SACD you will hear that it is out of proportion. I had exactely the same results when I bought recordings on both sacd and dvd-a. The dvd-a where a lot better in individual focus, the sound was more natural and there was more depth information and resolution. The media never wrote articles about the difference of the same recordings on dvd-a and sacd. Why? Because the get money for there advertisements. That is the only reason why. When you have enough knowledge you'll understand how big an instrument should sound normally on a recording and also the natural sound of an instrument should be. So just enjoy music and hopen there will be a system what really comes close to a master.