Upgrade for users of 1/2" mylar belt


This thread will be of interest to Galibier, Redpoint and Teres belt drive TT owners, or anyone using or thinking of using a drive belt made from 1/2" mylar. The belt material of choice on these tables for several years has been the silver holographic mylar streamers from sources linked on the Teres and Galibier websites. This outperforms everything else we've tried but like anything it's not perfect - and we've now found something better.

One of the silver holographic mylar's assets can also become a liability. That metallic layer, when new, gives the belt exceptional "grip" on the platter and motor capstan. Minimal slippage on transients is one reason the material works so well. Unfortunately, that layer can wear over time, leaving a silvery gray residue and allowing performance to deteriorate. The only solution has been a good cleaning and a new belt. No big deal, but if there was a better or more stable belt Paul and I wanted to find it.

I'll spare you a recounting of our many experiments and jump to the good news: thanks to (yet another) brainstorm by my resident genius/partner, we've developed a belt that both performs better and lasts longer. I've held off posting until we were sure, but after 4 months of steady use Paul’s idea is still working perfectly. The only negative is that making this new belt takes an hour or more of work spread over two days, but to us it's worth the effort.

HOW TO MAKE ONE

1. Cut a length of the silver holographic mylar tape sufficient for your TT, plus 3-4" extra.

2. Remove the silver metallic coating off the backside of the mylar. Paul used an acid etching cream popular with stained glass hobbyists to dissolve the metal - safe, quick and easy (use skin and eye protection).

3. Rinse thoroughly under running water, inspect to make sure you got all the silver off, wipe and hang to dry overnight.

4. Splice as normal to make a TT belt, making sure you tape on the OUTSIDE (which will be smoother than the now bare inside).

5. As always, the best splicing technique is to overlap the ends and cut on a 30-40 degree angle. Apply 1” video splicing tape (*not* tabs) across the belt at the *same* angle and trim away the excess.


WHY IT PERFORMS BETTER

Unlike any plain mylar ribbon you could easily buy, the silver holographic streamer has an ultra fine texture embossed on the back side of the *mylar* during manufacturing (*before* the metallic backing is applied). Once the silver layer is applied you can't see this texture, but that's what diffracts light like a million tiny prisms to produce the shimmery rainbow effect. Stripping the metal backing away exposes this texture, which becomes the contact surface of your new belt.

Paul realized this texture must exist and then hypothesized that using it for the working side of a TT belt might provide more “grip” on the platter rim and motor capstan than either plain mylar (which is extremely smooth) or the metallic backing. He was right. This belt produces more lifelike dynamics, both macro- and micro-, than even a brand new silver holographic belt - which heretofore was the best.

WHY IT LASTS LONGER

Removing the metallic backing exposes bare mylar, which is much sturdier than that fine layer of metal. Under normal use and assuming no accidents, one of these belts should last many, many months, perhaps years, while delivering consistent performance. Ours is going into its fifth month with few visible and no audible signs of wear.

Different motor capstan materials might interact with this belt differently, but I urge anyone with a compatible table to give this a try. Like all our favorite little tweaks, we'd find it hard to go back.

A FEW TIPS

1. Clean any silver/grey residue from your old belt off the motor capstan and platter before mounting the new belt.

2. As many of us have learned, the more inelastic the belt, the more critical motor leveling becomes. That is truer than ever with this new belt. Getting the motor set just right is touchy. Take care that your new belt is riding level in the center of the capstan before you start to play. You don't want it sliding up or down and mangling itself.

3. Motor distancing is also more critical than ever. Since this belt will not slip *or* stretch, tension must be perfect. The right amount is just shy of the tension that would tilt the motor off its feet.

4. Depending on your climate, the belt can build up static potential during use. Not enough to spark, but more than enough to attract airborne dust. I dust the belt's inside with my CF brush after each side before stopping the platter.

5. With this or any belt, always start your platter spinning with a helping push. Just pressing the motor's ON button creates lots of belt-wearing friction as the rapidly spinning motor tries to drag that heavy platter up to speed.

It all sounds like a pain, and it is! But the sonic and longevity results are worth the effort.

Cheers,
Doug
dougdeacon

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I need some splicing tape............
I hate to order a 100 foot roll of splicing tape when
all I need is maybe 1 foot. (rediculous to Me)
I'm sure a bunch of You guys have a multi lifetime
supply. So here's my request...If I send You a Stamped Self adressed envelope & a few bucks, Could You slip
a couple of lengths of 1" splice tape inside
the envelope & drop it in a mail box at your leisure?

by the way USRecordingmedia was out of the tape when I last
checked.

THANKS.
Doug Your killing Me,
First of all the 1" tape I seen at usrecordingmedia,com
was 25.97 not 5.00.
My main peeve is I did not want to waste all that tape,
1 foot would probably last Me a lifetime. How many guys
here purchased 100 foot rolls of tape, 10? that's a
thousand feet of tape in order to make a few belts?

I didn't realize It would be such a big stinking deal
to slip a piece of tape into an envelope in the effort
to save some natural resources in this throw away society.

I will order the 100 foot roll & toss the other 99 feet
into the garbage & just maybe, It will find It's way to
the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

Thanks for the tip.
I dont do 1099's! Just send cash in a non windowed
envelope as I would not want that plasticized window
material to make It's way to the GPGP!
Better yet....Why don't We just call It even as a way of My
saying Thanks for Your dedication & determination to the further advancement of platter motor interface.
Deal?

Incidentally, I Myself plan to do a little bit of
messing around & will be attempting to make a coccobolo
motor pulley for My Teres Ref. motor.
Hey I just got through acid etching the metallic coating, or (prism)
on some new mylar that I just received from McCormicks,
(1/2" Halographic) now I am wondering If I even got the correct Mylar.

After the acid etching, I rinsed it off & the Mylar looks
like regular basic standard clear Mylar, I do not see
any hint of any embossing on the Mylar.


Did I get the wrong Mylar?

Also am trying out a new mod on the pulley & will report any improvements, & I have a custom one off belt I had a belt mfr make that didn't impress, but I think I came up
with an idea that will surely improve it. more later....

In the mean time.....I'll install the new modified mylar
belt (that looks like regular Mylar) on for some spinning, & splice it with scotch tape until I get some real splicing tape.
DOUG D............

What is the reasoning in using 1 inch splicing tape
if the mylar is only half inch wide? are the splices precut to a predetermined length & that length is not
long enough for the splice? I'm a little confused.

I just ordered some Halographic 1/2 inch mylar & now
I need something to splice it, I am DONE with using
scotch tape as it contantly lets loose & leaves a sticky
residue on the cocobollo platter.

I also plan to order some etching creme to remove the
metallic from the mylar.