The pair of 4-10s are now in place, right next to the Double Impacts. They produce copious amounts of tight bass. My room is just over 22 ft. wide by 13.5 ft. deep with 9 ft. ceilings and I have the gain on each sub at about 15%. It took around 3 weeks to receive from the time of order. For some unknown reason (even though they were picked up at the same exact time by FedEx), one was delivered one afternoon and the other the next evening - I will never understand FedEx. We live kinda out-of-town a bit though. They essentially look like the DIs, but a bit shorter. I think I have them crossed over at around 55 Hz and the phase is at 0 degrees. I only have about 10 hours maybe of play time on them, but I think they are really nice sounding subs, especially for $800 each. To me, they fill in the gap between the DIs and my HSU VTF-15H subs in the corner. I was not planning on using the VTFs as well, but I am experimenting with setting the VTFs x-over way down near 35-37 Hz and bringing the gain slightly up from where I had it before the Tekton 4-10s were introduced into the system. And a reminder... this is only a 2-ch system - no home theater/surround.
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I think there is definitely a lot of output down low, but I still need more time to test & evaluate... been really busy.
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So I have maybe 30 hours music on the subs now. They are both sitting just outside the sides of the DI's and they are really great so far. I was listening to "The Best" by Awolnation last night during a long 4+ hour music session. There is just a wall of sound coming at me. The bass is absolutely incredible. I am letting the Tekton 4-10s run up to about 55Hz and the gain is at about 10% (if that). The HSU VTF15H's in the corners are set to about 10% gain and are cutoff lower, around 35Hz. If anyone reading is in the Phoenix area and thinking about Tekton and can get a hold of me through Audiogon somehow, I would be happy to audition.
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Jason Mraz "I'm Yours" Live at the Charter One Pavillion, Chicago, IL. 8/13/2009
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I will try to get a photo posted of my front setup. The 4-10s seem to be a great value as far as I am concerned. They fill in the lower registers well and blend with my upgraded DI’s to form a large wall of sound. I wish I could do the Encores... OMG they must be amazing. But running the stereo pair of HSU VTF-15H in the corners, crossed really low, like 30hz adds some RIDICULOUSNESS to the entire presentation...especially live music. I am just wondering if the police are going to come knocking one evening.
I made a playlist on Tidal called "THE HOUSE OF TEKTON"...
Broods "Conscious"
AWOLNATION " The Best "
Camila Cabello, Grey "Crown"
The Weekend "In Your Eyes"
Chris Cornell "Scream"
Talk about pressuring a room.... WOW.
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Basically they are just to the outside of the DI's, maybe 3-4" apart, faces are aligned. I sent a scaled drawing of my room to Eric before I bought them to show what I was intending to do.... he replied "That is exactly what we intended for people to do for placement".
I will take a few pics and get uploaded shortly.
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I do not see why it would matter if the 4-10 subs are on the inside or outside... the overall room itself will likely make more difference than anything. I love this room I have now, but of course would prefer a larger one.
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I just added my virtual system w/ some pics of the Tekton setup.... hard to get a photo capturing the entire wall. Then I added a sloseup pics also. The speakers are about 9" from the back wall, towed inward for the tweeters to fire just past the sides oy head. Distance between the speakers (tweeter to tweeter) is 10'-6" - room sounds awesome... lots of acoustic treatments in here.
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Having owned these now for a few months and several serious listening sessions, I can say that the 300-watts must be "plenty" to drive the 4 10" woofers. Honestly, I think I have the gain set to maybe 2. The driver efficiency along with how the 4 subs are wired maybe? I don't know, but these push a lot of energy. And mine are not jammed in the corners of the room, they are floating - set next to the double impacts. I was actually considering buying 4 more 4-10s and stacking a pair in each corner and running those 4 sub towers cutoff really low - like turning the x-over all the way down to the lowest setting.
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Just ordered a pair to flank my existing Tekton Double Impact’s (upgraded).
mcreyn: sensitivity DOES matter when dealing with subwoofers, just like any driver in a speaker. The drivers he chose and the way the 4 subs are wired means that he does not need a huge amp with 600+ watts to make a potent sounding subwoofer. I think you are spewing a bunch of assumptions on here - have you ever owned a pair of Tekton speakers? Maybe try a product first instead of looking at a bunch of specs and making a decision that they suck.
He is making speakers that are straight up EMBARRASSING speakers that cost 10X more. I know because I have owned many of them and am now on my 5th pair of Tektons.
Another thing regarding the "cheap" drivers... yes, he is using pretty basic drivers, x-overs and cabinets, BUT I prefer my $3400 Double Impacts with cheap drivers, cheap wiring, cheap x-overs in a basic box WAY MORE than the $10k Sonus Faber Cremona towers I owned. Why? Simple... they sound far better on ANY type of music you throw at them AND they require very little power to drive loudly AND the electronics do not need to be super hi-end to sound great. I admit that the SF towers looked stunning, but the Scanspeak tweeter (one of them) costs like $600 I think. That speakers uses all Scanspeak Revelator drivers.... so likely $4k in drivers alone? then the fancy cabinet, wood & leather finishes, x-overs, etc. Did the SF sound good? Sure, sounded great.... one of the best speakers I owned, but it required very expensive front end to sound its best and it did not sound great on all types of music. There may be some music that the SF speakers sounded a little better on, but not enough when you consider the cost difference.
Take a look at the 4-10 sub in question.... you have (4) 10" woofers @ around $75 each, then some wire, a simple MDF box with glue and nails/screws (maybe $80), the amp plate (about $100) then someone to build it (labor $???), then shipping the almost 100lb box at no cost. $800 is a GD bargain for this subwoofer. Talk about value for your money.
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OP here....
Ended up selling that entire setup... both 4-10 sub towers, pair of HSU VTF-15H, Tekton Double Impact towers, etc.
Now going to setup a Belles Aria integrated, pair of newly acquired Tekton Impact monitors (upgraded version) with some heavy Target MR60 stands, then a stack of subs on each side.... likely SVS. I like being able to adjust the bass on-the-fly as a lot of music was recorded differently and sometimes needs more output (or less). Maybe stack (3) SVS SB-3000 per channel.
I have owned/used AT LEAST 15 REL subs over tha last 20 years (Strata, Storm, Stadium, R-528, Q108, Q-150, B3, G1, etc. - great subs, but way overpriced now. I had a buddy that paid nearly $2,600 for a new REL R-528... the amp plate was toast after only 5 years.... had to remove it, send to REL, paid almost $400 for repair. I had a Storm III that was still working fine that was over 22 years old. Those days are gone I'm afraid.
All my old "ST" series RELs latest like 15-20 years (or more), made in England. Now they are all made in China and shipped over... even the reference No. 25 ($7,500 retail) - no thanks.
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