Mcintosh C-2300 first impressions


I bought an C2300 from an authorized mac dealer with return rights minus shipping. I have 11 days to listen to it. My current preamp is the Counterpoint SA-5.1 that has had the line and phono stage upgraded by Mike Elliott (the original designer/engineer of Counterpoint gear). Since I use a low output cartridge, I also use the Counterpoint SA-2 in conjuction with the SA-5.1. My amp is the Jadis Defy 7 MKII. What I was hoping to achieve was to retain all of the sound quality of the SA-2/SA-5.1 combo while lowering the noise floor compared to my current phono section (the line section of the SA-5.1 is very quiet).
My initial impression from my first night of listening is that the C2300 has a refined, polite presentation in a button-upped British sort of way with a sweet top end. However, it sounds thin much like a SS preamp sounds and it doesn't have much in the way of a bottom end which can even be heard on acoustic bass. Forget any type of wowie-zowie bass punch with this preamp. Voices also don't sound as real as my current preamp. And these listening impressions come from listening to LPs, CDs, and 15 ips 2 track tape. I guess if I didn't know any better I could be happy with this preamp, but unless things improve soon it will be going back.
For those of you who own and love the C-2300, I would love to know what preamp it replaced in your system. I love all of the creature comforts this preamp has to offer with 8 inputs, 4 sets of balanced inputs, a cool remote, etc. I do think it is a bit garish looking in person with different shades of green lights as well as blue. If this preamp doesn't start fleshing out more of the music, it will be going back. And please don't tell me that it takes magic Telefunken 12AX7s to make this preamp come alive. I have heard mixed reviews with some owners not liking the Telefunkens at all and actually preferring the Mcintosh selected 12AX7s while others who are hooked on Telefunkens of course swear by the improvement they expected to hear.

Mark
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Showing 2 responses by oscar44

Agree with all the others that you need to give this some time, and within your window of auditioning that means playing music through it 24/7 while in your possession. What I am less clear on is why you imagined this preamp would be a significant step up from what you have? If your goal is to match the Counterpoint linestage but get lower noise floor in the phono stage, I think there have to be better options than spending all that money on a new C2300. Why not keep the line stage you like and invest in an alternative phono stage? Further, the MAC has lots of functionality which you may or may need but is part of its price. I considered one but at the end of the day did not want to pay for lots of inputs and features that I did not require in my system -- everything that's extra costs, and with dealer mark up, it means compromises of some kind in the areas that matter most in your system.
So, a $6k preamp cannot be expected to sound very good until you replace the supplied tubes with NOS, the supplied power cord with an aftermarket one, and add new footers? Wow! And we wonder why the audio industry has problems gaining a large audience. Mark, if the break in period does not reveal an improvement to you, stick with what you have and work on the phono stage.