Looking For 90% of the performane of the super expensive cables for much less money


I currently have a system which consists of Vandersteen 5A's, THor Audio TP-150 tubed monoblocks, Thor Line Stage and Thor phono stage, Marantz SACD player SA-114 and will take delivery of the VPI Prime Scout with a Sumiko EVOS 3 Cartridge. I am currently using LAT International Speaker Cables, Power Cords and Interconnects. (They are no longer in business). I am in immediate  need of turntable cables and would like to update my new speaker cables and interconnects. Not willing to spend thousands on this upgrade. Seeking to capture as much of the "magic" that the super expensive cables deliver but at a more realistic price point. I understand that I have really good quality equipment, but at this stage of my life cannot allocate mega dollars towards cables.
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 
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Call Joe Abrams at Equus Audio/Portal Audio.  He is an audio veteran and has worked for some of the biggest names in audio.  Free advice and consultation.
Mapleshade wires are certainly musical and distortion free but they don’t quite give you the low bass weight and definition of some other cables.
As an idiot, all I can say is that I have owned many, many, many cables from both ends of the spectrum.  What I have found, is that MIT cables have consistently allowed my system(s) to sound their best.  They deliver everything they claim, but most of all, my music just sounds so unbelievably organic, dynamic and tonaly correct.  MIT cables also allow you to feel as though you are in the space of the musicians like no other I have heard.  I’ve wasted a lot of time and money attempting to improve and or deny how good they are...they are simply wonderful cables!  


I get the self help, group therapy thing going on here but unless your deaf, getting even lower level MIT cables can offer truly amazing results.  As I said, The Cable Co.  let’s you try before you buy !
For almost all cables I would agree, except MIT.  They have seriously improved signal transmission technology in their recent offerings.  Most cables have slight variances in performance, but anytime I have used MIT cables, everything just sounded so much more realistic!
After participating in these threads for awhile it strikes me that a majority of those offering advice are simply justifying their own bias toward a given topic. It is kinda sad and dysfunctional at the same time. Know one is really listening...they are only seizing the opportunity to correct everyone who doesn’t believe in the same thing they do. Perhaps we are all guilty of this to some degree or another. Maybe it’s unavoidable. Human nature compels us to justify our actions so we feel vindicated in our beliefs. I have tried to listen and experiment as much as possible over the years in an attempt to achieve a more authentic listening experience. More often then not, we need to just try different things and simply listen! If something hits our soul, then we should just stop searching and be thankful.
@defiantboomerang Newcomer to Agon, bringeth much knowledge and sage advice.  Bestow upon us the infinite wisdom of the miserly electron...caring not the cost of its interconnected medium.  Blessed are those who hear much and spend so little, for they are the audio blessed!
I put my cheap cables back in my system to see how much difference it would make.  Of course even my Monster cable stuff was a bit over $100, but hey, ya gotta live a little!  So, I could see how someone who didn’t care all that much about the low level detail and subtle dynamic shifts, or sense of space and lack of strain on loud passages could be satisfied.  It’s all a matter of priorities I suppose.  In the end it should be enjoyable for everyone.  Why can’t we follow our muse wherever it takes us and not judge each other...unless you are trying to exert some sort of “Superiority Trip” upon those who require the subjective value contained within the Higher End marketplace!
My daughters name is Elizabeth so I have to agree with her namesakes post!  As for the 90% equivelancy range...well, I’ve heard some pretty awful cheap stuff and horrid expensive stuff.  Really do have to address system and cables individually.  Assuming the cheap stuff can give you a high percentage of the best sound available is not accurate.  Occasionally you can get close with a value brand though!
MIT cables will give you an amazing sense of soundstaging, tonal accuracy and sense of being in the presence of the musicians.  Dynamics will also be stunning.  If interested I can suggest an online authorized retailer who can get you anything you want for a great price!
The following is a post I made elsewhere, but also applies here:

One of the things I find extremely curious about much of the commentary on topics like these, is that the lack of first hand experience with much of what is discussed is shocking.  It’s easy to be smug and resolute, or satisfied in ones own ignorance when your experience is limited.  It is not helpful to expound on topics if ones experience is using zip cord and then going hog wild by trying Audioquest or Kimber.  That’s meant in jest of course, but really folks...if you haven’t lived with a good cross section of what’s available then you have very little understanding of what can be achieved.  I have owned a ridiculously large number of cable designs over the last 30 years, and yes, I even had Fulton Gold Speaker Cables (look those up boys and girls)!  Can someone be happy with conventional cable designs that offer slight differences in their ability to alter the frequency response you hear?  Of course, people love affordable bland products (usually high in salt).  To gain a truly realistic experience however, requires innovation, combined with a love of music and an understanding of audio reproduction.  A lot of what is peddled in the realm of cables is nonsense indeed.  Cryo treatments, hyper pure metal, various ways to align the conductors and insulation materials etc... Do they all make a difference?  Sure, but only minor deviations in the resultant experience and definitely not worth the money.  As it turns out, the original big High End cable companies were on to something that could significantly enhance the audio listening experience.  Ironically, they would become the whipping posts for most of the next gen cable companies that evolved and expanded following the newly tapped “Money Trail” that was discovered!  The only real significant ground being blazed today is in wireless or digital technology.  For me, MIT and Transparent cables still perform to a higher standard under most conditions in most systems.  Of course, as is the case with Homo Sapiens, your perspective may vary.
Grannyring is incorrect...fact.  Science or any scientific theory, lives or dies by the evidence and is perpetually in question based upon new information.  How one hypothesizes carries no weight toward its validation.  Peer review and repeatable experimentation are the foundations of good science.  Faith can be a passenger in the process, but has no integral role for the acceptance of any given theory.  Gaps are simply opportunities to learn and explore more about a theory or concept.  Some people will fill the gaps with faith, while others simply look for more information.
Joe is fantastic to get advice from and he also offers great deals on MIT cables!
Phillyb is right!  I’ve had $4500 power cords and I’ve used free PC’s that came with equipment.  How they interact with your gear means more than any absolute quantitative differences between them!
Elizabeth, thanks for reminding me about Pangea!!  I forgot I have a 14SEMKII, so I put it on my Krell Vanguard Digital Amp.  Damn, if that sucker isn’t an amazing power cord.  Warmer and more detailed with increased dynamics and a bit rounder (3d) sounding.  Thanks
A grade Materials + bad design = crap
Adequate Materials + great design = music