Graham Phantom Supreme?


Has anyone done a comparison between the Supreme and the mkII? Is it worth changing and expending the extra outlay?

The main revisions appear to be the bearing housing and an improved magneglide stabiliser (I think the internal wiring was up to a good standard already on the mkII)

There is a company called AudioMax Ltd (approved contractor?) which can perform upgrades from both Phantom I and Phantom II to the Supreme build.
Any experience of this conversion out there ?
Many thanks... :)
moonglum

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Syntax

I heard you have the new phantom 2!supreme. Having had the phantom 2, can you give us your impressions so far?

Andrew
Hi All,

I had my Phantom II upgraded to the Supreme status a while back and finally had a chance to install it. Some comments:

1) this arm has incredible macro and micro dynamics. It's is one of the first things that stands out. Dynamics start continue and die out in the sharpest way that I have ever experienced. This is real, natural dynamics without any glare or break-up.

2) the amount of detail is significantly increased. Inner details are easily rendered.

3) this arm has perfect timing. It is not slow or fast....just right

4) all of the above create a timbarally, detailed and dynamic presentation which is much much better than the original II.

I have compared it side by side with the triplanar-7 uII and is unquestionably the superior arm in my system.

It's is a highly recommended upgrade.

Andrew
Wrm57,

I agree I felt the Phantom II was better than the triplanar. You will be shocked by the Supreme. The new version has a very live attack without sounding threadbare or strident. The triplanar is a little fuller but is missing a lot in comparison. The Supreme can also sound full but there is now a larger gap between recordings. The triplanar tends to have a house sound where the Supreme is mores neutral.

I still like the tripalanr and plan to keep it.

Andrew
My experience with damping fluid is the following:

Use very little. I initially tried ~0.25cc of the series 100 fluid. I then removed about a little more than half of it leaving the fluid touching the underside of the square shank and ~1/3 of the way up the bottom of the cylindrical damping housing. This was a lot better. With the original level, low level details and microdynamics were obscured with a weighter, guttural quality. Removing the fluid unveiled a wealth of detail, stronger microdynamic expression and cleaned up the bass making it also osounf more textrually detailed.

I'm considering going even lower where only a portion of the bearing tip is covered. Will provide feedback when I do but for now staying at this level.

Bill, let us know what you think.

Anddrew
Bill

Thanks for your thorough feedback.! That basically sums up my experience. I'm still fiddling with VTA as I'm also observing what Egrady did with the headshesd section slightl tilted down and forward. This was validated by seeing the base if the cartridge having it's tail slightly up. In other words, previously the cart was parallel to record to achieve 91.5 degree SRA. So I have been lowering the bearing section and that is improving things. FYI, I didn't have that issue with my original 9inch wand but recently I had to get a 10inch version to be compatIble with table.

Thanks and enjoy.

Andrew
Mulveling

I'm in the same boat. With the 10 inch. My cart is all the way back inbthe headshell. But I was able to verify that independent of the cart, the headhsell is not in the same plane as the tube. The micropoise spirit level shows one thing and a spirit level not the headshell showa the oppPaige.

My 9 inch want didn't have that issue.

Andrew