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Supratek or Rogue?

I will be upgrading my system from a Rogue Cronus Magnum integrated amp to a pair of the Rogue M-180 monoblocks and a separate preamp. My budget for the preamp is about $2500 so the obvious contender is the Rogue 99 line stage. However, I have recently found out about Supratek and their Chardonnay line stage. The Chardonnay is absolutely gorgeous and 6 Moons gave it a rave review a while ago. The company has a tremendous reputation and following among audiophiles as well. One of the biggest cons for me is the fact that Supratek has no dealer support in the US (or anywhere else for that matter), and if something goes wrong, you're pretty much on your own. Also, the wait time is at least 2 months, if not 6. I'd like to hear your opinions on the matter and see what you would do if faced with this dilemma.

The rest of my system: VPI Classic turntable, Lyra Delos cartridge, Camelot Technology Lancelot phono preamp, Silverline Audio SR-17.5 speakers.

Thank you.
actusreus
grinnell
1,077 posts
 
Haven't heard either but on looks alone the Supratek looks sweet.
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kgturner
663 posts
 
I've owned a Supratek Chardonnay and now own a Dual Cabernet. I've had the Dual Cab for over two years which says a lot considering how much I used to flip gear. I can't speak to the Rogue units, but the Supratek preamps I've owned have been flawless. Mick's partner, Kevin Covi, lives in New York and should be able to offer support though I'm not 100% sure he's still involved. They're all point to point wired so most competent tube tech should be able to make repairs if ever needed. The sound of Supratek is even more beautiful than their looks.
jeffjazz
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Owned the Rogue 99 magnum and now own the Chardonney.

The Rogue was big sounding had good dynamics and detail, but it sounded a little noisy to me and did something weird to the soundstage. Hard to explain. The Supratek is far better in my opinion. I had a problem with the power switch breaking and emailed Mick. He sent me one for no charge. Took a couple of weeks to get, but no problem there. I did solder it in myself. I also owned a Modwright preamp 9.0 with upgrades that I liked very much. I had both the Suprated and Modwright in my system for about a year before I decided to keep the Modwright. The Modwright is also very good and can be found inexpensively used. It was a little more extended on top with better dynamics. The Supratek was warmer sounding and bigger sounding with the 6sn7 tubes. Check the thread out on preamps costing $3500 great suggestions there. Don't know if you want remote or not but there are some excellent preamps for less like the Mapletree and the The Cary Ae-3 (the SLP98 can also be had in your price range)Since you are running a tubed amp the Modwright may be really good for you.
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audiofeil
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I owned a Supratek Grange some years back and it was awesome. It did, however, arrive DOA due to a cold solder joint that was easily fixed. Your points about service and repair are important.

That being said, it may not be a bad idea to consider purchasing an inexpensive linestage as a back up should you decide on the Chardonnay. As they say, sh** happens.

IMO
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