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Kuzma Four Point compared to SME V-12 tonearm

Interested to learn who has heard either the SME V-12 or Kuzma Four Point arms, and with what related equipment.
I'm familiar with M.Fremer's review of the Kuzma.
I want to upgrade my Technics SP10 MkII table from the very nice Acos Lustre ST-801, and have a new Micro Benz LP-S cartridge. The two arms I am considering are the SME V-12 and Kuzma's Four Point.
My audio buddy has the V-12 and I am quite familiar with it, but his system is solid state where mine is hybrid, his cartridge is beyond my means, and his speakers, though wonderful, are monitors where mine are full range with subs.
I look forward to learning what *experience* others have had.
Thanks very much in advance for your assistance.

Best, David
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pojuojuo
92 posts
 
You should try to check the new Simplicity from Thales (Swiss Co.)

I was reviewing it for Hifilive e-magazine and I am liking soooooo much
ps68
228 posts
 
I am interested in this also, the SME , Kuzma, AND the Thales are on my radar..
pojuojuo
92 posts
 
4points and Simplicity are these days two of the best choices available at any price
dgarretson
2,593 posts
 
I've heard the 4PT at several shows-- with performance varying from average to superb. The best so far was as personally set up and demoed by Franc Kuzma at CES. He demoed the 4PT on a redesigned Stabi Reference table. The TT now has a belt-driven single DC motor with enough torque to get the LP to full speed in one revolution. This lets you queue up a stationary record, sit down on the couch, and start play via remote control. A very convincing demo.

BTW he mentioned that the Airline still surpasses the 4PT.
bpwalsh
1,197 posts
 
Dgarretson, that was not a redesigned Stabi Reference, that was the new Stabi M, introduced last year at the Munich hifi show and shown for the first time in the US at the recent CES. It has a single large 3-phase DC motor and very different belt.
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