Gruv Glide - Do you use it?


Hello AGONers,

I was just wondering if any of you use gruv glide or any similar product. I decided to purchase some on a whim and gave it a try on a few LPs. I used it on a few pressings that were used that I bought in the local record store. Even though I cleaned these with a spin clean and a KAB EV-1, they were still a bit noisy. I applied the gruv glide and it did reduce the background noise and static significantly. It seems to do a good job. I just worry about it leaving residue on my LPs and my stylus, which I know it does.

What do you guys think about this product and the pros and cons of it?

Thanks
Andy Price
andyprice44
I really can't see how the force of a stylus in the grove, which, considering the contact area, is probably measured in tons per square inch, could be "impeded" by anything.
Hmmm... try diving off the Golden Gate Bridge. The landing is softer than Gruv Glide, it's just water. You'll hit the water with a force of tons/square inch, but I guarantee your progress will be "impeded" long before you reach the rocky bottom. ;-)

Seriously, if the stylus isn't deflected by GG residue, please explain how GG masks the sound of groove damage (I believe we agree that it does).
Is it possible that the perceived loss of low level detail is caused by the removal of high-frequency hash?
No. Low level musical detail and HF hash sound completely different.

GG works by coating tiny irregularities in the groove walls with a residual layer. It's true that this residue doesn't "know" whether any particular irregularity is due to rough vinyl, damage from a previous play or HF detail and microdynamics recorded by the cutting head - all tiny irregularities are coated equally. How audible this is depends on the thickness of the residue and the resolving ability of the system.

My own (very clean, goo-less) LPs do have slightly more HF hash than less clean LPs (with or without GG). This is because my stylus sees nothing but bare vinyl, warts and all. However, neither I nor any visitor has ever confused groove rush or tape hiss with the HF microdynamics and harmonics that are intrinsic to music. They sound completely different. (To be fair, I've heard systems where this is harder to distinguish.)

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@Pops - my tastes happen to run mostly to classical and ancient music. Finding mint LPs in these genre is pretty easy. I agree that it's harder to find mint LPs of rock music (for example). My approach wouldn't work so well for rock listeners, so I shouldn't have stated it as a blanket approach for all. Apologies.

As for listening to only vinyl, doesn't that guarantee that you'll miss a lot of music? Lots of material is never released on vinyl at all.
Doug you are right...tons of good music on cd that is not on vinyl, I just have not personally invested in digItal in a very long time so actually I miss a lot! My digital is so nice sounding but so inferior to my vinyl rig that I never listen to it.

I am primarily a rocker so finding VGA+++ 70's stuff (my era) is indeed tough! Cheers!
I had a grado statement that was not running right. Brought it to my dealer, first thing he said was "I hope you don't use groove glide" and I did, it turned out it gunked up the cartridge so bad it was almost unusable.
He cleaned it all out real good then I had to go home and re clean all my records to get it off them. Took a good 2 years after I started using it to happen but it did. But all in all it really helped older records sound better,
And gave my $1 record pile new life
looks like the consensus is that it does help those of us that have some records from the bargain bin. I wont use it on mint condition, clean records. It does help quite a bit on VG grade vinyl