Tube pre picking up feedback/vibration?


Recently got a pair of Magnepan 3.7's and a Sanders Magtech.
Have an old ARC LS15, newly retuned.
Have noticed a muddiness in the bass, kind of a one tone bass at times. When I tap on the preamp cabinet, get a distinct sound transmitting to the speakers, so
I gather I'm picking up some feedback. The pre is rather cole to the speakers, and it doesn't have the isolation of more current models.
Can you guys help with suggestions to stop this?
I'm considering a new preamp, but never noticed this with my previous speakers.
Are there isolation devices to deal with this, tub dampers, etc???
Changes the wires from the Pre to the amp, Putting in my Verbatim wires in place of the Nordost, and that helped some. but want to remove this source of pollution from the system, obviously.
Thanks
Carl
brrgrr
"Sorry to say, all tubes are microphonic, at least to some degree; there simply isn't such a thing as a non-microphonic tube."

True enough. But to find the most microphonic and thus problematic tube, lightly tapping each tube as Rrog suggests will help you isolate the bad boy so you can replace it with a new one. Just make sure you have the volume set at a low level when you do it.
I'll take a second shot at this one -

I'm not sure but it appears that Brrgrr's complaint is 'muddiness' and when he taps the case he gets feedback from his speakers caused, we must assume by microphonics. He connects the microphonics and the muddiness, or at least, he suggests a possible connection.

He has just replaced the tubes. Last I heard ARC was using EH6922's in its stuff and as replacement tubes. To be blunt, I have used these tubes in an ARC pre-amp as well as a couple of tubed CDP's and amps. I found them to be muddy in the midrange. I also found them noisy (very low level though). I never noticed a problem with microphonics, but then I never tap tubes with anything to find out. If I can't hear it it must not exist. :-)

I think it is entirely possible that the OP's only problem is tube selection and his problem could be solved by getting different tubes, and not just new replacement ones from ARC. If this amp really does stress its tubes, as Marakanetz suggests, he could try some old stock 6h23EB's. These tubes are not warm. If the OP wants some warmth he might try different tubes in the second stage such as the new production JJ's. Worked quite well in my ARC preamp.

FWIW.

FWIW.
Newbee, I used EH tubes supplied by Audio Research in an SP-8 MKII with completely different results. That preamp with EH tubes became as neutral as any preamp I have heard. The OP may have a microphonic tube or the preamp is not setting on a solid surface. Audio Research is making an effort to minimize the effects of the type of surface their equipment is setting on with built in isolation. I think this is a smart move on their part.
Rrog,
I believe that preamp should be minimalistic and perform as close to passive as possible. LS15 is quite opposite to any amplifiers it drives.
And yes I've upgraded to Mytek 192 DSDDAC/preamp/headphone + Musical Fidelity XPS for analogye mainly for excellent dynamic capabilities and bunch of digital inputs. If I'd use ARC on my rig, I wouldn't be able to turn volume past 8:00. Can you imagine how dynamics would suffer? Nah I'd like to have linear performance on nearly all volume levels as I have right now. Donno about youall.
All components have to be driven with comfort -- forget the luxury because price and model has nothing to do with system synergy.
Have you ever seen BMW 5 series with plush seats and manual sunroof/side windows? I guess I don't mind driving it... You?
Marakanetz, I find your BMW 5 series analogy especially useful since that has been my car of choice for more than 10 years. Come to think of it I have never seen a 3 series with the lack of options you mentioned either.

BTW Audio Research volume pots can be easily adjusted by simply changing a single resistor.