New Fuse Thread . . .


So the talk about the sonic effects of fuses got way out of hand, and I would like to know some details from those who have actually tried the boutique audio fuses. So if you have, please let us know any of the following:

1. What value (ampere rating) were you using, and was it fast or slow-blow (time delay)? Time-delay fuses usually have a letter 'T' in their rating, like "T2.5A" is a 2.5 ampere, slow-blow fuse.

2. Does anybody have a reasonably decent ohmmeter, and could you measure the difference in resistance between the boutique fuse and the standard one? If you measure, be sure to subtract the resistance of your test leads. Of course, if somebody has an impedance analyzer, I'd love to see that data . . .

3. What position is this used in? That is, on the AC line, or after the transformer, after the rectifier, etc.?

4. Has anybody had occasional fuse-blowing with the stock fuse, and replaced it with a boutique fuse, and had the boutique fuse blow? Did the failure patterns seem similar to both types?

5. Has anybody made any performance measurements on their equipment with various types of fuses?

So I'm hypothesizing about some ways in which fuses could affect circuit performance, and there are two things I can think of. First, if silver wire is used, then since silver has a lower melting point than copper, the fuse resistance *could* possibly be lower for a given rating. Also, many slow-blow fuses seem to have a resistive element wound around a central core, so it's possible that these could be inductive as well. So what could that mean in a circuit?

First, for a slow-blow line-fuse application, where there is an AC input filter, adding/changing resistance/reactance in the AC line could affect the Q of the input filter, and if this unit was RF suceptible or had a switch-mode power supply, the fuse could therefore affect RF emisions or suceptibility.

Second, many power amplifiers have no snubber capacitors on their rectifiers, and also use fuses for the power-transformer secondary. It's possible here that changing the reactive/resistive characteristics of the fuse could slightly change the switching speed of the rectifier diodes, and affect the diodes' RF emissions.

Third, some power amplifiers use fuses on the DC rails, after the filter capacitors. In this case, it's easy to see how fuse resistance could influence the amplifier performance.

Fourth, if a fuse was placed between a low-voltage linear regulator (like the ubiquitous 78XX or LM317) and its local input filter capacitor, the characteristics of the fuse could affect the regulator's stability, and cause it to oscillate.

And finally, there's the UL rating issue . . . it's important to have confidence that a fuse will blow when its supposed to, and without any certifications, who's to say? At $40 a pop [sic], testing their tolerance and production consistency is a very expensive proposition indeed.

Now I'm not claiming that fuses make a difference, or don't make a difference, I honestly haven't tried, and I'm too cheap to conduct an exhaustive study into the matter. But if anybody has some good data (even if incomplete) on their experiments, please share it.
kirkus
Warnerwh, listening to music is always my solution also. It is curious that sound is our major concern, but writing about is preoccupies us. Would it not be nice were we to be able to post our sounds?
In the future Tbg, teleportation will be fast and cheap...then we will all have to face the music!
Just found this on another thread. At least one amplifier designer thinks HiFi Tuning fuses provide value added:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1206983240&openflup&14&4#14
Hello,
Here are my answers:
1. Fast blow 4 and 6 amps HiFi Tuning from CableCo
2. Fluke model T5 1000. Zero ohm measurement on both type of fuses.
3. In line with amp output mounted at speaker binding post.
4. No
5. The only measurement I know of and how to do, is with my ears.

I heard little or no difference with the tweak fuses installed at the input supply 120 vac.

Where they do make a sonic improvement is at the speakers terminals (inline with amp output) and DC rails, circuit board mounted, especially.
The filament in the glass fuses is supported on both ends filled with air,
and the ceramics are either sand filled or like the Acmes are held with a solid rod going through the length of the fuse without any air space.

This an easy tweak good value tweak for me.

thx Terry
I installed Hi Fi Tuning fuses in my VTL amps and the change was so positive, two of the guys in my group ordered for their system the next day.

Strangely enough, putting Hi Fi tuning fuses in the turntable power supply was nearly half of what I got in the VTL power amps. Cumulative effect i would say.

Next is my Aesthetix Io and Callisto. After they return from getting their Eclipse upgrade, I'll give the Hi Fi Tuning fuses a chance there as well.

Looks like they are going to wind up in everything I own. I've already bought 40 and only 8 remaining. I did this long term, starting with a single piece of equipment and worked up.

That's why this is my first comment since my September post.