Toddnkaya, was unable to look up anyone by the name of Mountainman on Agon. "Quad Man" only seems to show up as Quadman, but there no posts associated with that member. The fact is, I can't recall seeing any posts about any wavetouch products by either of them...can you direct me to them? If what you say is true, I would like to see that. But, my main point is that all I Really did was direct Broadstone to the company's website (where of course there are reviews and info). I made a case for why I considered them to be relevant to Broadstone's situ largely by sticking to the specs and what PEOPLE WHO'VE HEARD THEM have already said about their sound. Since when is it out of bounds to do that? Look, I've been under the assumption that Broadstone is grown up enough to take what I wrote with any sized grain of salt he (or she) wishes and either dismiss what I said out of hand or get interested enough to go to the site and see what there was to it, if anything, for his own purposes. And I don't see any reason for B_limo or anyone else to suggest that Broadstone is somehow too challenged to be counted on to engage in that process on his own...or are both you guys saying that problem is just your own? I stated my case as I see it. And of course I gave the dimensions, Broadstone said he was looking for standmount speakers. I think that to suggest that I'm somehow out to dupe Broadstone based on what I wrote above is just a bit over the top, to me. I can't express an opinion (and a mostly positive one at that) on a product (yes, even one I say I haven't heard) that I've based on reasoned argument because it might offend?? That's crazy... I'm not asking anyone to BUY the damn things, just consider them!...for whatever that's worth to anyone. Last time I checked, that was what forums like this were for. If anyone feels the fact that I say I haven't heard them yet invalidates anything I wrote, then fine, ignore it and move on. But, I feel like I gave everyone the information they need to make up their own mind on that point, one way or the other.