EMC-1 vs. Levinson 360s/Sony SCD-1


I've narrowed my digital Redbook front end down to two choices, both of which will cost me under $4K used. (The "under $4K used" is the important criteria here for me)

The current front-runner for me is a used/demo EMC-1 with the new 24/192 upgrade board at a cost of under $3,500 -- there's seems to be very wide concensus that this is one of the better Redbook players under $10K.

Choice #2 is my current Sony SCD-1 coupled with a Levinson 360s (which is also under $4K used, if you can find one).

I listen to a very wide range of music and have both tubes (Aranov) and SS (Classe 301)amps with a Placette Active Line Stage. Whereas, I realize that few of us have a chance to hear the new upgraded EMC-1, comparisons to the older model are also fine. And if you've listened to another DAC in the $4K used range with the Sony SCD-1 and you liked what you've heard, then please comment.

I've ruled out the following: (probably the best -- DCS - but too expensive, even used). MSB Platinum (sounded a little dark to me, as if it was taking something away when trying to get rid of the digital edge. Mephisto II (dealer who sells both says the the new EMC-1 is equal/better and a whole lot cheaper).

I think many of us are sitting on the fence a little with respect to choosing between a good one box player (EMC-1, Audio Aero, Mephisto II, Meridian, etc.) and the better transport/DAC combos (Levinson. DCS, Wadia, etc.)-- which to me, seem a bit pricey considering the quality of the very best one box players.

Pls1, who has done a lot of comparisons in high end digital, posted in another thread that he thought the differnces were very subtle between some of this high end stuff, sometimes just 5% or so -- has anyone else done extensive listening/comparisons? --Lorne
lornecherry
Thanks, Bwhite .... I think it will be the new EMC-1 MKII as you suggest -- seems to be the best value in high end digital, at least for the moment. Also, Stewart at Sancturary of Sound (my dealer) swears by the new 192 upgrade and told me he liked it better than the $7,500 Mephisto II, his previous favorite. Can't wait to have a listen.
If you have a couple weeks to wait, I'm going to be sending my SCD-1 in for the full
www.audiocom-uk.com upgrade. After experimenting with a number of DAC/SCD-1 combos I found the Audiomeca Enkianthus 24x192 up sampling to do a great job, but not enough of a difference to justify the cost. The transparency and depth was enhanced, but only very, very slightly. ABXing the two showed no difference, but with greater listening of full cuts it became apparent that the Audiomeca was better. The Audiomeca is quite a bit more cost than the upgrade I'm going to get and the reports are the upgrades improvement is greater. It is expected that the dynamics, detail, transparency, timbre, sound stage and definition will all be improved. It has been reported that the upgraded unit will equal any Redbook playback system. The upgrades include replacing the audio board electrolytic capacitors, resistors, regulators, op-amp modules along with the power board electrolytic capacitors and regulators. I plan to write a review after the unit has 150 hours of burn-in on the upgraded components. My expectation is this will make the SCD-1 far and away the best player on the market and should be considered before you make your final decision. I hope to again compare it to the Audiomeca before my report.
I have to agree strongly with "Sutts".

After auditoning MANY all-in-one CDP's and seperates with transports, the Audio Aero Capitole 24/192 is the overall best thing I heard out there. VERY analog like, smooth, liquid, but with TONS of detail. Best of all can be run direct to amp for the purest possible signal. Do yourself a favor & give a listen before buying anything else (seperates or otherwise).
Check out the Bow ZZ-Eight. This is the best one box CDP that I have heard and unlike all the upsampling units, it doesn't unnaturally smooth the signal. It gives you all the immediacy, bite, dynamics and low end weight which is usually missing from the overly and unnaturally smoothed upsampling units.
Over the last 9 months I have had EMC1, SCD1, and the new Meridian 588. Each had their strengths but were in the same
ballpark. I now switched to a Cary 306 and this is really in a different league. The Vocals, piano, just about everything
sounds more natural and emotional. I strongly recommend you
listen to the Cary 306 before you purchase your next player.
You won't regret it. Good luck.