What's all the fuss about late 70s and earl 80s run of the mill midfi turntables?


My first table was a Garrard SL95-B. It was really nothing to sing about and you had to pay extra for the plastic base. I graduated from that to a Philips GA 212. Thank God it was located on a concrete slab floor. Still nothing special. Then on to a Sony 2251 LA with an SME 2009 tonearm. This was a real upgrade with an Ortofon MC20 cartridge and transformer. I thought I was doing that thing in tall cotton. Then I met Russ Goddard at The Audible Difference in Palo Alto. He told me to bring my setup to his store and we would do a little A-B comparison. After listening for only a minute or two it was obvious My Sony was not any way near a Linn LP 12 of that time. Anyway the point is most of the common tables from people like Garrard, Dual, Marantz, were just imposters to the real thing. I hold no nostalgic emotion to those tables. I was foolish enough to sell my Linn setup when the writing was on the wall around 1999 regarding vinyl. Big mistake!! I sold all my vinyl, my table with an Ittock arm arm and audio technica OC-9 shibata. A SOTA MC Head Amp designed by John Curl (a collectors item today) for $1000.00. Lock me up. I had every cartridge of the day, Koetsu, Supex, GAS, Fidelity Research. My 2 year old son tore the stylus off my Sleeping Beauty Shibata accindently.

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While I still have a couple hundred records, As fast as I could afford it, I bought a CD player and haven’t looked back.  I found all the clicks and pops, no matter how small, very distracting and annoying.  We all talk about that being there sound and when I go to the symphony if someone sneezes, I find it distracting as well. 
Having said this about vinyl, when I stream something that’s labeled HR and I hear clicks and pops or tape hiss that really makes me scratch my head.

Getting off my soapbox….

I like my new Thorens td1500, yea not a linn, but I bet it's pretty close for a lot less money.

I recently pulled my Rega P-6 out of service and set up a second JVC table.  I'm now running a QL-Y66F and a QL-Y77F.  Both are excellent machines from the early to mid 80s that are at home with high end cartridges installed.  I love my vintage JVCs.

@curiousjim    I don't know how you get 'all the clicks and pops'.  I sometimes get a couple on the run-in groove but very few while the music is playing.  Have you tried not eating dinner off your LPs?

Interesting point about audience noise in concerts.  I wonder why more people don't complain.

@clearthinker 

Back then all I had was a discwasher brush and a Zerostat. My TT was was a B&O Beogram 1900 with their best cartridge.  I did try several of the record protection systems as well. I cleaned every record every time I played them. But yeah, most of the albums I bought, had clicks and pops right outta the sleeve.

And what’s wrong with using records as lazy susans? Ya have to put the Guac and chips somewhere 😁