Fremer's Single-leg panel is absolute tweak bs


So a few months ago a video appears on Youtube with Michael Fremer and some electrical contractors installing a custom electrical service and extravagant ground rod array.

OK, but the one thing about it that’s absolute unnecessary tweaky BS is the idea of running a single leg to a sub panel, as well as only using one leg for the audio equipment in it. Who ever thought this was a good idea? It isn’t.

If you really want to get as high-end tweaky as you can this is the absolute wrong way. Run 6 gauge or larger to a sub pane.  In that sub panel you locate a 220V to 120V step down transformer and keep everything balanced all the way to the outlets. That is the best of all worlds.  High noise rejection, meets code, balanced current draw from both legs and extremely low voltage drop from the utility pole to the outlets.

Another good alternative is to run 220V to a wall outlet, and use a high quality step down transformer there. A 220V/30A circuit becomes 60A at 120V output. Running high voltage as close to the outlets as possible doubles your wire gauge effectiveness.

 

 

erik_squires

I was done with Fremer when during the breaking news about MoFi he kept saying the guy who asked the question that broke the scandal wasn't a "journalist" so he dismissed it.  He has zero credibility

Fremer has a new Tracking Angel video he shot of his listening room and current system. Available for viewing on YouTube.

@johnah5 Wrote:

I was done with Fremer when during the breaking news about MoFi he kept saying the guy who asked the question that broke the scandal wasn't a "journalist" so he dismissed it.  He has zero credibility

I agree!

Mike

For a residential dwelling unit in the US a hard wired 60/120V balanced power system is not NEC or AHJ (AHJ, in most areas in the US) code compliant. If a person can get a electrical contractor/electrician to install and wire one into the electrical system of a residential dwelling unit he will do so without pulling an electrical permit.

 

Quote:
"60/120V Symmetrical (Balanced) Power Systems Per NEC 647.1 (2008) the use of a separately derived 120 volt, single phase, 3-wire system with 60 volts between each of the two ungrounded conductors and ground is permitted for the purpose of reducing objectionable noise in sensitive equipment locations, providing the following conditions are met:


1. The system is installed only in commercial or industrial occupancies


2. The system‟s use is restricted to areas under close supervision by qualified personnel.


3. All other requirements in NEC 647.4 through 647.8 are met.


In a 60/120-volt symmetrical (balanced) power system the load current return path is not a grounded conductor, as it is for the standard 120-volt system. Neutral and safety ground are no longer tied together as in a standard electrical system."

"A major disadvantage of balanced power
systems is the requirement for ground fault
circuit interrupter receptacles (GFCI). These
receptacles can trip due to normal ground
leakage currents."

"When the GFCI receptacles are disabled or
bypassed, the system becomes an
electrocution hazard!"

"Since the noise reduction achievable with this scheme is typically only 6 to 10 dB, symmetrical (balanced) power transformers are not a cost-effective method of reducing system noise. The primary benefit (reduced common-mode noise) is due to the fact that these systems are inherently isolation transformers, whether the output is balanced or not. A standard, unbalanced shielded isolation
transformer will do nearly as well without the disadvantages of a balanced output power transformer."

Pages 26 - 27

Power Distribution and Grounding of Audio, Video and ...

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Quote:

"So-Called “Balanced Power”
Properly called SYMMETRICAL power
Has very seductive intuitive appeal
NOT similar to balanced audio lines in any way!
Uses transformer having 120 V center-tapped secondary
Both line and neutral output blades are energized at 60 V
Although advertising often implies endorsement, NEC seriously restricts
its use – because it’s potentially dangerous!
ONLY FOR PROFESSIONAL USE
NOT to be used with lighting equipment, especially screw-base bulbs
MUST have GFCI at outputs
Only technical function is to reduce leakage currents
Leakage currents are trivial system noise sources
Reported noise reduction generally less than 10 dB
Any real benefit likely due to its clustered outlets."

"The theory is pretty simple: if symmetrical (equal but opposite instantaneous polarity)
AC voltages are applied to equal-valued capacitors, say C1 and C2 above, the two
current flows would also be equal but opposite and cancel each other ... no net
current into safety ground. But leakage currents flowing in safety ground
wiring are not a significant source of ground voltage differences ... as so
many apparently believe."

An Overview of Audio System Grounding & Interfacing 9/4/2012
Bill Whitlock

pages 201-202

An Overview of Audio System Grounding and Interfacing

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Another problem if a 60/120V balanced power system is hard wired to the electrical system of a residential dwelling unit according to NEC as well as most AHJs in the US most 120V branch circuits shall be AFCI protected. Yes an audio room that would apply... The 2 pole circuit breakers in a "wall mount" hard wired 60/120V balanced power system are not AFCI circuit breakers. I doubt they would even function if they were tried. They are not designed, manufactured, or Listed, to be connected to a 60/120V symmetrical power system.

 

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Thanks for the clarification, @jea48

So, we can't use an in-panel balanced power/symmetrical power provider, but we CAN use a step down balanced power converter so long as it's plugged in.

Is that how you read it?

Best,


Erik