Comparing systems through phone recordings


Dear Audiogon friends,

Consider how convenient it would be, if we could exchange sound clips, recordings of how our systems sound in our room, on the web. At Audiogon I get audio friends and contacts whose systems I would love to hear, but they live miles away, or even halfway around the world. The chance that I can come and listen to their system "live" in their listening room is close to zero. So what about, exchanging recordings, instead?

Ten or five years ago, I would have said, forget it, it cannot be done.The drawbacks were too large. Now? I am no longer so sure. Mobile phone technology has advanced. True, I maybe cannot hear the finer nuances of a stereo setup and how it interacts with the room, in a "lowly" mobile phone recording, but I can hear some main characteristics. For example, how my speakers sound compared to my friend’s speakers.

I have tested this concept a bit with other A-goners, using their mobiles to record the same track, playing in their room, recording from their listening position. The results are interesting. They do show differences, even with the limited recording capability, poor mic's, lowgrade file formats, etc.

Anyone else who has tried this?


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I am not saying it can be done. I am suggesting a method, to test it. To get a little better at it. What is the problem with that?

It can never be done, no matter how much refinement you put into the process.  The particular room one records in is unique in its characteristics, so how can any meaningful judgment be made?  There is no perfect microphone--in studios, many different types and models of microphones are used just because they each have certain characteristics and the selection is made based on the particular instrument or vocalist, the particular effect that is being sought, etc.  How can ANY microphone be selected, even if one had a range of alternatives, that does not then make the resulting sound "objective" in terms of a realistic reproduction of the sound in that already arbitrary room?  And what about microphone placement, recording technique/engineering?  

Then there is the matter of the playback of this recording.  How in the world does one account for the gear, the speakers, the acoustics on the playback end?  

Is there any harm in at least trying?  Yes, in that one can easily be deluded into thinking that the reproduction is good enough to make an evaluation.  It never will be good enough to have any meaning.

Hi Larryi

I agree on your points but think you exaggerate - with a quite bleak view.

It would be great if Audiogon members could exchange sound clips from their systems. Even if this is at first low level mobile phone recordings with all kinds of faults. Don't you agree? This way, we would have a better data base for our choices regarding sound. If the clip is published to members with info on the type of mic, system and room dimensions, we would have more info for critical listening.

Sure this does not replace listening to the speaker or component 'live', at a dealer or even at home. But it would be a real help for this forum, I believe. I don't fear that Audiogon members woul be 'deluded' - but maybe I am naive.