Turntable Hum


Any help appreciated!

Low pitched hum coming from TT input ...even when TT is not running . Hum is noticeable at about 1/4 volume & really bad at 50%

Manley Monoblock Snappers

VPI Scout w Hana MC cart right next to amp on table (moved TT away from amp to floor made 0 difference)

Allnic 1202 Phonostage grounded to VPI TT (on floor below JBL speakers & main speakers right to the left Tekton Encores)

Manley Jumbo Shrimp Preamp

Klark Teknik 32 band EQ

All cables (interconnects) recently replaced - Mogami

 

I tried ground lifting the TT motor - no change

unplugged tv & nearby laptop - no change

unplugged all lights nearby - no change

 

I suppose my next troubleshooting venture is to run a ground from phonostage to everywhere & start touching things? Phonostage seems to be the culprit....

😕

 

Thanks everyone!

128x128tommypenngotti

I had a similar problem with hum like what the OP described. Tried all the usual grounding tricks. They helped somewhat,  but just couldn't eliminate the problem completely. 

Then I was given the suggestion to change turntable power supplies. Turns out my tt came with a cheap switching wallwort power supply.  All I had to do was order another wallwort power supply, only this time went to a linear type.

 Cost, 15 dollars. And voila!!! Hum totally  disappeared.  Not sure if it will work with what you have, but worth a try if your tt has a cheap switching power supply.

 

@millercarbon 

when I disconnect the Phonostage all humming goes away . 

unplugging TT from phonostage completely the higher buzzing is gone , but a low end hum remains....the high buzzing comes from the right side of TT 

 

thoughts? 

@mr_m there is no power supply , just a cable into wall for motor 

Tommy, I've going through this for a number of years.

I also Have some RF starting at  9 o'clock, it's a head scratcher.

For me dedicated lines to the fuse box and high end outlets may do the trick. 

It seems like matching the phono pre and the cart is most crucial, I'm thinking of going to the DS system with phono pre and optical cartridge to get the correct match, I've heard good things.

Your thoughts

Ground loop hum is typically about 60Hz, a low throbbing hum, and indicates a ground loop problem. Higher frequency buzzing sounds like your normal run of the mill phono cartridge/phono stage noise. Two similar and related but yet different things. As you can tell.

What I think happened was you disconnect the phono stage this eliminates the ground loop and cartridge completely and all is silent. Connecting the phono stage alone introduces the ground loop. Then connecting the phono adds that buzzing noise.

Now with phono RCA and ground disconnected try the phono stage. If you get hum from the phono stage alone check where everything is plugged in. Try plugging the phono stage into another outlet. Try plugging the preamp into another outlet. If you still get hum like this the last thing to check is disconnect the preamp from everything except the phono stage. If there are no outlets you can plug these into that doesn't result in hum then we have probably ruled out everything and are left with a bad phono stage. 

Otherwise, eventually, if the phono stage is okay then you are bound to find some way of connecting without hum. 

Then connect the phono ground to the phono stage. If this adds hum, well let us hope it does not! Then connect the RCA. Hopefully this only adds the noise. Eliminating this is another similar process. Set that aside for now. Start with the ground loop hum.

Just throwing something out there. Could the phono cables not be shielded? Maybe try a different brand/model of cable and see if the noise changes any or goes away.