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''Óriginal parts'', ''identity '' and ''retip'' conundrum

The ''identity enigma'' is easy to explain with ''ownership''. Not everyone is familiar with logic or philosophy but everyone owns something or other.

Ownership assume ''one to one relation'' between an person (legal

bodies included) and one object of ownership. Think of question how

you can prove to own some object. You can also think about question

how to prove to be owner of, say an part of your stolen car.

What the ''force'' of the expression ''original'' is , is an enigma.

However Americans are typical example of   people who are very

fond of ''original parts'' and willing to pay huge amount of money

for the ''precious'' (grin). By the so called ''retips'' the assumption

is also ''original'' versus ''not original parts''. This means that 

every manufacturer as well ''retiper'' uses his own styli and or

cantilevers. The fact however is that they all buy those ''parts''

by either by Namiki or Ogura. So, logicaly speaking, the origin

of those ''parts'' are either Namiki or Ogura. Is gluing an cantilever/

stylus combo in the ''joint pipe'' rocket science?

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Dear dover, We can use your ''dead horse'' as description for your

3 worn out styli which are ''rebuild'' by Dynavector for ''refreshement

price''. of, say, half the retail  price . This imply 50% of the just mentioned

price. While you should know that 30% is their usual ''profit margin ''.

As a former ''dealer'' you should know the prices. Well you could

also do ''only the stylus retip'' by Axel for, say, 200 euro. But , as

I mentioned by Marlene Ditrich , rich men or women are not well

''connected'' to the real world. There is also similar story about

Marie Antoinette who was wondering why people do not eat cookie

when they lack bread. You should ''keep your point'' by your

remark about economic and budget. BTW I assume they in (Dutch)

New Zeeland have TV? On the TV you can see the whole day 

Ads about prices. The not recognize terror on human kind. 

 

 

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Those who make sarcastic comments on ''second hand English''

obviously have the illusion that the ''native speakers'' are able to

express their thoughts clearly. 

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terry, Never seen an production line for cartridges? Those are imply

by AT story about ''selected  parts'' by ''selected technician'' in the

USA (aka Signet kinds) not Japan. AT 180, 170 and 160 don't

mention any such ''selection''. BTW in Frege's time there were

no retips.

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terry , I am still waiting for your explanation  of identity without logic

and philosophy. In ordinary language that is. This way you can 

''spare us'' from ''elementary philosophy'' (your invention?) 

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@nandric

I was speaking of high end cartridges, all or partially made by hand, not assembly line. As for assembly line cartridges, I do expect sample to sample variation, because of materials or tolerances - that is, serendipity.

I retired from teaching, so I have no obligation to correct you. Nevertheless, I can point you to a good reference, Thouless's 'Straight and Crooked Thinking'. It's quite accessible. Then try Wittgenstein's 'Blue and Brown Books', less accessible, but not too hard..

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