Audiophiles are not alone


In the current (May 13th-19th, 2017) edition of the Economist there is a short piece entitled "Violins" that I want to bring to your attention.  It is about new violins and old violins, specifically Cremonese (Guarneri, Stradivari, Amati) vs. Joseph Curtin (modern violin maker in Michigan).  With Dr. Claudia Fritz of the University of Paris, presiding, experiments were held in Paris and New York that proved to the majority of both musicians and listeners (other musicians, critics, composers etc.) that new fiddles out performed old ones.  There were some sort of goggles used so that the players could not tell what instrument they were playing.  The audience was also prevented from seeing the instruments somehow.  All this done without inhibiting sound transmission.  Both solo and orchestrated works were performed.  You can read the whole story in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.  And this is only the latest evidence of this apparent reality, as according to the article, similar experiments have reached similar conclusions prior to this.  The article concluded with the observation that these results notwithstanding, world class players are not about to give up their preference for their Cremonese fiddles.

This reminds me very much of some of our dilemmas and debates such as the ever popular: analog vs. digital, tube vs. transistor, and subjective listening vs. measured performance parameters.  If it has taken a couple of hundred years and counting for the debate on fiddles to remain unresolved, what hope have we to ever reach resolutions to some of our most cherished and strongly held preferences?  This is asked while hugging my turntables and tube electronics.
billstevenson
Dear @billstevenson : Your thread title and against the tests on the new/old violins tell us that " Audiophiles are alone " and not what you stated or assumed.

Those tests can't tell us ( even if the conclusions were the other way around. ) that tube or analog are better than digital or SS. There is no way to prove your " take " for audio. Especially when the target is stay " truer to the recording ". 

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC not DISTORTIONS,
R.
Bill;
I had talked to you earlier on installing a full
lp setup 
I owned a CJ ET3 

I notice you read “The economist” , too
Fantastic read and great insites

Anyway , LP all installed and better, quieter, more resolving than expected .

Question: What cables do you run with the CJ ?
and what tubes in your GAT ? 
Jeff 
Hi Jeff,
Cables and power cords for all my c-j electronics are Audio Sensitivity, Silver Statement on the cables.   Steve at Audio Sensitivity sent me a bunch of different grades of cables and cords to try with return privilege.  The owner is Steve and they are located in Ontario. Tubes for the GAT are critical and I buy them from c-j, they are Philips PCC88, but they are not ordinary PCC88s.  They are screened and matched, hand selected.  The small tubes on my ART150 are also PCC88, but they are marked, separate and cost less than the ones for the GAT.  Even though c-j charges more for tubes, in the end they last longer and are more cost effective.