Detecting differences among cables


Obviously, one of the great audio controversies is whether after a very low bar threshold there is really a detectable difference among cables, whether transmitting power or signal.  Skeptics (I'll label them "nay-sayers") generally state that any discernable audible differences whatsoever are wishful thinking; many audiophiles state that most definitely various well-designed cables can cause clearly distinct differences in the resultant sound -- provided the rest of one's system is sufficiently refined to be able to deliver a level of performance otherwise good enough to hear them.

I have belonged to the latter camp for the past 20 years.  At that time, my equipment dealer loaned me four different speaker cables to try.  I had no favorite among them when I began my evaluation one afternoon.  By the end of that day, it was evident to me that the Transparent Audio cable sounded the best -- better than both the speaker cable I had been using and the three others I was trying out.  Over the ensuing years, I generally purchased well-reviewed, but hardly outrageously expensive, interconnect and power cables whenever I bought a new piece of gear.  I was always pleased with how my audio system sounded afterwards; my practice had served me well.

AXPONA 2019 was a real eye-opener for me when I attended a 30-minute demo of competitive high-end power cables sponsored by Audioquest.  Two things became starkly evident: all of them caused the music to sound much better than when an ordinary 12 gauge power cord was used; and there were discernable differences even among those very expensive power cords.  Both to my ears and to those of most of the other members of the audience at that session, the Audioquest and Shunyata cables resulted in a more musical sound -- but not identically; the Nordost and one other cable whose manufacturer I forget were less clear and less musical.  Can I describe how they were less?  Not specifically anymore, but I still remember that they were.  As a consequence of that demo, I decided to upgrade my interconnects between my preamp and my power amps and my speaker cables.

One take-away from that demonstration was that, to hone in on what might be an audible difference between two cables, not only must the rest of one's system be up to the task, but also the music played has to be well performed, well engineered, and well reproduced in the media serving as its source.  What I did was to choose outstanding source material in which I selected certain short and distinct passages that provided me the opportunity to discern various attributes such as inner detail.  An example of this is the brief chorus in Chris Isaak's "Wicked Game" -- "this world is only gonna break your heart".  The only part of that sentence I could clearly make out effortlessly before I started my upgrade exercise were the "k" in break and the words "your heart".  Other examples I used ranged from how a small percussion instrument sounded in Ludivico Einaudi's "Life" in his In A Time Lapse album to the overall realism in terms of "being there" and identifiable dimensionality of Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson introducing "Ghost Riders in the Sky" in their VH1 Storytellers album.

I spent a lot of time, effort and (unfortunately) dollars in my determination of my new cables.  Ultimately, what I chose were Wireworld's Silver Eclipse speaker cables and Equinox (XLR) interconnect and Shunyata's Delta XC power cable connecting into a Shunyata Denalit 2000/T power distributor (my amplifiers have integrated power cords).

The improvement in the audio quality of my system became very evident.  All the words of the "Wicked Game" chorus, for example, are now clear and easy to understand.  Instruments sound a bit more real, as do voices.  These new cables also have had one more benefit which both my wife and I find astounding.  Heretofore, whenever we watched a movie, we needed to have subtitles displayed in order not to miss hearing/understanding some of the dialogue.  No longer!  The improved clarity of the sound is so profound that in most cases we no longer need those subtitles.

In conclusion, I tend to think that the "nay-sayers" probably fall into two categories.  There are those people who simply don't own systems good enough to enable the differentiation that is there and those who do own excellent equipment but don't expend the effort necessary to design a conclusive trial that would enable them to hear that differentiation.  However, my own experience has provided me with the proof that there really is a difference among cables and that this difference is discernable. 


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... "nay-sayers" probably fall into two categories. There are those people who simply don't own systems good enough to enable the differentiation that is there and those who do own excellent equipment but don't expend the effort necessary to design a conclusive trial that would enable them to hear that differentiation.
There is a third category - those who insist there is no difference purely for the purpose of fomenting argument. It's sometimes pretty obvious.
Of course cables sound better/worse/different from each other. I've always found it easy to hear without expecting anything really, just *will it or won't it* do anything at all.I don't understand why there are audiophiles that snap their minds shut and won't try anything new.Their loss I guess.
Having a little extra disposable income this past year I've been trying out some power cords.Even moderately priced cords are very obviously cleaner and less noisy than stock cords.The big winner for my system are cords from Triode Wire Labs.The Obsession cord was a huge positive upgrade.
@jmeyers - WRT:
I tend to think that the "nay-sayers" probably fall into two categories. There are those people who simply don’t own systems good enough to enable the differentiation that is there
An interesting thought, but in my experience over the past 5-6 years, any system is quite capable of achieving a noticeable improvement in sound quality by implementing "better cables"

For Example...
- I have a mini-system in my garage that sounded so much better after I replaced the power cable and the speaker cables

- I have a Bluesound Node 2 that sounded much better with a good power cable - so much so, even the sales person in the store where I purchased it from, could not believe a power cable could make that much of an improvement

- Similarly, my neighbors remote Bose Speaker sounded much better after the power cable was replaced.

- My brothers very affordable audio system improved beyond his expectations when I replaced his speaker and interconnect cables.

Having said that - you DO have to have the right cables to make such an audible improvement :-)

Most cables can make some difference - not necessarily for the better

However, many people are just not "educated" in what to listen for.

That education can take many 100’s of hours of very intent listening on a vast variety of albims/tracks

For example, over the years I have collected over 60 very specific audition tracks that I have come to rely on to highlight some of the specific metrics we tend to use to gauge a cables performance...
- very dynamic tracks - mostly drums and piecing guitar work
- tracks with excellent acoustic and electric bass work
- tracks with extremely large image with lots of space between performers
- tracks with exquisitely fine details - acoustic guitar can be very revealing
- tracks with excellent venue acoustics i.e. the reverberations and echoes
- tracks that have excellent sound engineering - i.e. electronic music

All of these help me in assess how well a cable performs (or not)

If you go into an audition with a random selection of "nice sounding" music, you are probably not going to get the most out of that audition, but if you take the time to "educate" your hearing and use very specific tracks then you will be more successful.

The other thing is to take those tracks and audition them on other systems, be it a friends or a stores system, to see how they sound in comparison to your own system.

I was fortunate in that I had some excellent stores in my area that did not mind me listening to their systems and chatting about the advantages of one system versus another.

And don’t be frightened of sale people - they seldom know what they are listening for.

But once in a while one will surprise you, so become buddies with them, because they can save you a lot of money.

A "real audition" should take at least a couple of days, because it takes time for the cables to seat into the sockets and to "settle down" - a bit like a mini-burn-in. I generally wait at least 24 hours.

If the cables are new - they should be burned in before assessing
- I’ve had new cables that continue to improve after 400 hours

So, getting a new pair of cables and expecting to hear a difference immediately might be a little ambitious, but sometimes a cable will surprise you.

The world of cables is vast and complex and is far more than just relying on a specific brand.

Factors that affect cable performance include
- Cable geometry
- wire metallurgy
- wire gauge
- wire insulation type
- connectors
- impact of high capacitance speaker cables on some solid state amps

So take the time to educate yourself - that is - if you really want to KNOW whether a cable is going to perform well in YOUR system

Just my two cents worth :-)

Regards - Steve






I have found audible differences in interconnects and speaker cables that can be attributed to differences in design (twisted pair, quad, coaxial, etc.) and material (Teflon, OFC, OCC, etc.).

When it comes to power cables, however, it becomes a much harder sell. I've tried a number of after-market (Audioquest & Pangea) power cords and my Bryston B60R Integrated Amp doesn't care what I feed it with. Bryston and Pass Labs have long maintained that there is nothing to gain by replacing their stock power cord with an expensive "boutique" one. The robust design of their power supplies might well explain their position.