Why do most phono preamps lack XLR input even thought cartridges are naturally balanced?

@lewm  One advantage of true balanced is to remove reference to GND in order to get rid of wire to shield capacitance, but the same can be achieved with input transformer.  The other is that even harmonics produced by both "legs" cancel, but some people looking for "warm" sound might not see it as particular advantage.

Matching resistors is unnecessary if cross-referencing of both "legs" is used (like in the input stage of instrumentation amp), otherwise it is almost impossible.  As for matching RIAA curve - it is very difficult. Typical good capacitors are 1%.  Matching them by hand is not practical for production, not to mention changes over time (aging).  Phono stage amplifies 60Hz by about 6 times vs 1kHz signal.  As a result of both you will get very poor CMRR @60Hz in order of 30dB only.  Good Instrumentation amp, like one in my Rowland amp, have 90dB CMRR @60Hz (and it is just plain line-in).  My current power amp (Benchmark AHB2) has CMRR=80dB (equivalent to 0.01% gain matching)

If they really don't make balanced inputs for such low level signals, they should.  True balanced is out of the question, IMHO, because of capacitors tolerances, but simple solution would be to use input transformer. Why not use instrumentation amp and drive shield with common mode signal?  It is very common in low level amplifiers.

Interesting subject.  Perhaps Almarg or Atmasphere can chime in?

@kijanki instrumentation amplifiers use laser trimmed resistors internally and/or external precision resistors as well as significant open loop bandwidth to achieve high CMRR and fixed gain levels. If you mean the differential pair / long tailed pair on the input, they also need somewhat matched resistors and in op-amps they are trimmed to provide higher CM range. <<$1.00 op-amps have 100db+ common mode rejection, but not in practical circuit which would be about 70db with 0.01% resistors. Low cost practical instrumentation op-amps with high CM range readily achieve 90db CMRR. Your amps may have a few precision resistors, and/or they are calibrated.


The main point of differential connections in audio is to eliminate the noise from having ground references which are different at the receiver and the transmitter whatever they may be and how they are caused. In a home audio system, that is going to be predominantly through noise induced through the AC, with the capacitance of the power supply, even EMI caps completing the circuit.


With a cartridge, you only have a ground connection on one end. Equal currents induced in the same direction on each wire (common mode) "induce" the same voltage and cancel each other out (it is a loop), at least at practical audio frequencies. Differential noise, will of course look just like a signal. The cartridge is already "isolated".

Most phono stages, preamp and amplifiers aren’t true balanced. A balanced input doesn’t necessarily mean it’s balanced. My Atma-sphere  mp-1 is fully balanced with XLR phono input. I had Ralph add rca phono inputs so I could use any tonearm without adapter. Not many arms have  xlr connectors . All the arms I’ve ended up with over the years except one has been rca. 

With a cartridge, you only have a ground connection on one end. Equal currents induced in the same direction on each wire (common mode) "induce" the same voltage and cancel each other out (it is a loop), at least at practical audio frequencies. Differential noise, will of course look just like a signal. The cartridge is already "isolated".

That is true, as long as currents flow in the loop only.  If one of the wires go to input while the other goes to GND (unbalanced input), currents in both wires are not even anymore.  Perhaps, that's why floating (for audio frequencies) balanced output, like transformer is not enough and has to be connected to balanced input (not single ended).  Microphones also benefit from balanced input.  

As for Instrumentation amps, yes they have laser trimmed resistors, but front (two amp) differential section has always gain of 1 for common mode signal independently of resistor tolerance.  If you set gain of 100 for this section you get automatically 40dB CMRR independent of resistors tolerance.  It happens because each of two amps is referenced to input of another (instead of the GND). 

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Fig-Two-Op-amp-Instrumentation-Amplifier_fig1_299514235

That is the only way I can see, for truly balanced amps, to function without converting common mode noise to normal mode signal.  Otherwise matching resistors and keeping them matched to some sensible number (like 60dB=0.1%) is not practical, while adding RIAA frequency correction and matching capacitors to 0.1% is next to impossible.

Thanks for the mention, Kijanki. To add further technical elaboration to this erudite discussion of esoteric matters, IMO the main reason "most phono preamps lack XLR input even though cartridges are naturally balanced" (quoting from the subject line of this thread) is simply what Lew said earlier:

... it’s a longstanding tradition to offer only RCA inputs.

:-)

And of course traditions often tend to be self-perpetuating.

It’s perhaps also relevant that not too many decades ago I believe a considerable majority of high quality turntables had pendant (non-detachable) phono cables terminated with RCA plugs.

Finally, regarding RIAA equalization Ralph’s (Atmasphere’s) MP-1 and MP-3 preamps are of course fully balanced, provide transformerless balanced XLR inputs for their built-in phono stages (RCAs can be added as an option), and are spec’d as having RIAA accuracies of 0.07 db and 0.1 db respectively! And given especially that it is Ralph who has provided those specs, I have no reason to doubt them. I’m not in a position to elaborate on how he accomplishes those numbers, of course, other than pointing out that he uses triode-based differential stages rather than separate signal paths for the two legs. But as far as purely technical considerations are concerned his designs certainly speak to the practicability of accomplishing what the OP has asked about.

Best regards,
-- Al