Are tubes really “warm”?


Time and again I read posts that claim/assume that tubes sound “warm.” I have not found this to be the case. Having owned many high quality tube amps and preamps, I find that tube electronics present more natural highs than many ss designs. But warm?? Not in my experience. Can someone explain what it is about the tube sound that many consider “warm?”
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This old adage goes back to when most amps were tube-based and used in systems with limited frequency response. Components like carbon resistors, saggy resistor voltage droppers, and tube rectifiers contributed to this ’tone’ of a rolled off upper treble and woolly bass.
In reality, a good modern tube amp has a certain naturalness which can be attributed to lack of solid state transistor haze caused by switching noise and its associated odd-order harmonic distortion. With modern components, tube amps can sound as cool and neutral as you prefer. Conversely, many solid state amplifiers can  sound warm so it’s not a predictable way to classify the type of sound you’re going to get from a specific type of amplifier. To add complexity to the issue, electronic passive component and tube type, configuration and brand selection can also affect how warm or cool an amplifier sounds. 
Of course if you’re going to play CDs with them it doesn’t really matter since CDs are lacking in warmth and air anyway. You can’t turn a pig’s ear into a silk purse. 🐷 
Not with Audio Research. They make tube gear that sounds like solid state. Never understood this brand. 🙄 Why use tubes in the first place if you aim for a solid state sound ??...
Good post @noromance 

The tube sound for me has always been about the presentation, not the linearity of its FR.  There is a holographic nature and weight to images that can be tough to get right with solid state. For me, if a tube amp sounds 'solid state', it means there is no real soundstage depth or weight to images - a flat sound if you will.  Some tube amps do sound like that, and the opposite is true for solid state amps sounding like tube amps, but it is much rarer to find the latter.
*are tubes warm?*, 
 depends on make of amp/design. in general , no , not muddy (=warm). 
but most ~~certainly~~ not sterile sounding,  that is not clinical as their nemesis, the *other* amp design,
(hint = ss amperage)
yeah i am  #1 basher. of ss design. 
The ss groupies just hate me so...